S fund
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Re: S fund
Hey... even .08% positive gets me back up over 13%.... I'll take it
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Re: S fund
I'm stay in S and let see if it can push .50% gain by the end of next week. Purchased Options PUT today on IWM PUT credit spread of $.09 (Even if it stay side way or up then the profit at least $745 profit for $1,000 margin with one week protection to recoup if market react on NK fire missile test this weekend).
Buy SEP 22 $139 (4th week down)
Sell SEP 15 $140 (3rd week up)
Buy SEP 22 $139 (4th week down)
Sell SEP 15 $140 (3rd week up)
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Re: S fund
Winner wrote:I'm stay in S and let see if it can push .50% gain by the end of next week. Purchased Options PUT today on IWM PUT credit spread of $.09 (Even if it stay side way or up then the profit at least $745 profit for $1,000 margin with one week protection to recoup if market react on NK fire missile test this weekend).
Buy SEP 22 $139 (4th week down)
Sell SEP 15 $140 (3rd week up)
I want to know more about these protective options but am having trouble finding a starting point or what terms to search for. In my personal account and my IRA I would like to try to protect downside while not giving up to much potential profit if it keeps going up. Right now my experience to options is limited experience selling covered calls for a small "dividend-like" gain here and there.
Re: S fund
SPREAD is my protection
PUT sell higher price then buy lower price to create spread
CALL sell lower price then buy higher price to create spread
Most of my trades are vertical spread for 5 to 10 point ($5 to $10 spread) with the same expiration date (with exception for the stock that swing up and down then I placed different date with potential to profit both direction like I mentioned above for IWM even both strike expire worthless then I still have credit that I collected to cover my commission cost at $4.95). I'm for at least 15% to +100% profit between 30 to 90 days. My advantage profit is around 30%+ for 90 days and most of my trades are monthly since it fill faster than weekly. The farther out of the expiration date then more money to collect.
Today I sold 10 contacts on APPL NOV 17 $155/$150 PUT spread for net credit of $1.60. A total of $1,600 with require margin $3,400 ($3.40 per contact) or potential profit 47% ($1.60/$3.40 on $5 spread) for 10 weeks. APPL for the last 10 years were up 7 out of 10 or 70% potential APPL will trade above $155 strike for it to expire worthless. This trade is like I use only $3,400 to place a hold to buy 1,000 shares (to control => $158,630 today closing price) of APPL. If APPL drop below $155 by November 17 the my cost will be $153.40 ($155 - $1.60 that collected early today or purchase at 3.30% when compare to someone bought it today).
If you want to own some stock or EFT then why buy it now. You could sell naked PUT to collect an advantage 1% to 3% weekly (= 52% to 156% annually return) and you still have 100% cash (don't have to put it in the mattress). When you own stock then sell CALL strike 1% to 5% (even with monthly return that = 12% to 60%) above current trading price to create cover call which is better than do nothing and expect to collect dividend only or hope it will go up 1,000% in couple of years.
PUT sell higher price then buy lower price to create spread
CALL sell lower price then buy higher price to create spread
Most of my trades are vertical spread for 5 to 10 point ($5 to $10 spread) with the same expiration date (with exception for the stock that swing up and down then I placed different date with potential to profit both direction like I mentioned above for IWM even both strike expire worthless then I still have credit that I collected to cover my commission cost at $4.95). I'm for at least 15% to +100% profit between 30 to 90 days. My advantage profit is around 30%+ for 90 days and most of my trades are monthly since it fill faster than weekly. The farther out of the expiration date then more money to collect.
Today I sold 10 contacts on APPL NOV 17 $155/$150 PUT spread for net credit of $1.60. A total of $1,600 with require margin $3,400 ($3.40 per contact) or potential profit 47% ($1.60/$3.40 on $5 spread) for 10 weeks. APPL for the last 10 years were up 7 out of 10 or 70% potential APPL will trade above $155 strike for it to expire worthless. This trade is like I use only $3,400 to place a hold to buy 1,000 shares (to control => $158,630 today closing price) of APPL. If APPL drop below $155 by November 17 the my cost will be $153.40 ($155 - $1.60 that collected early today or purchase at 3.30% when compare to someone bought it today).
If you want to own some stock or EFT then why buy it now. You could sell naked PUT to collect an advantage 1% to 3% weekly (= 52% to 156% annually return) and you still have 100% cash (don't have to put it in the mattress). When you own stock then sell CALL strike 1% to 5% (even with monthly return that = 12% to 60%) above current trading price to create cover call which is better than do nothing and expect to collect dividend only or hope it will go up 1,000% in couple of years.
“A brave man knows the circumstances and consequences of what he may encounter ahead…..but moves forward anyway.”
Re: S fund
Timber82 wrote:I want to know more about these protective options but am having trouble finding a starting point or what terms to search for. In my personal account and my IRA I would like to try to protect downside while not giving up to much potential profit if it keeps going up. Right now my experience to options is limited experience selling covered calls for a small "dividend-like" gain here and there.
Buy PUT a lot higher than your strike and try to get closer time premium as much as you can. Let example of I fund or EFA closing price at $67.51, so I going to buy like December 15 PUT $74 strike for $6.50 (time premium 0.01 = $1 for every 100 shares). If it go up you can sell it, if it going down then you could assign it at $74 and in the mean time sell call as well to collect more + all the dividend. Time Premium (TP) is your key to buy for a protection (the lower to a penny is the best) and sell with higher TP to collect more profit.
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Re: S fund
Futures are looking pretty good! Hopefully we get a nice bounceback. We thinking it was because Irma wasn't as bad as they thought?
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Re: S fund
mmmmmbeer wrote:Futures are looking pretty good! Hopefully we get a nice bounceback. We thinking it was because Irma wasn't as bad as they thought?
Looks like it. Up over 1% starting out. Hopefully we get a couple days of positives. Sept 18th before noon is my next scheduled move to "F" fund.
I am just an average Joe. I have no clue to what the market will do.
Paul Merriman 2 fund strat: (age - 25) x2.5 = TDF + balance into S fund or variation ofTimboSlice wrote: "People really need to stop overthinking this."
Re: S fund
Scarfinger wrote:mmmmmbeer wrote:Futures are looking pretty good! Hopefully we get a nice bounceback. We thinking it was because Irma wasn't as bad as they thought?
Looks like it. Up over 1% starting out. Hopefully we get a couple days of positives. Sept 18th before noon is my next scheduled move to "F" fund.
Don't count the Daily Out of Sept brothers and sisters!
"I get knocked down, but I get up again, you never gonna keep me down!"
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Re: S fund
mmmmmbeer wrote:Scarfinger wrote:mmmmmbeer wrote:Futures are looking pretty good! Hopefully we get a nice bounceback. We thinking it was because Irma wasn't as bad as they thought?
Looks like it. Up over 1% starting out. Hopefully we get a couple days of positives. Sept 18th before noon is my next scheduled move to "F" fund.
Don't count the Daily Out of Sept brothers and sisters!
"I get knocked down, but I get up again, you never gonna keep me down!"
That's the spirit...STAY POSITIVE !!!
Re: S fund
Is everybody being quiet cause they don't want to break the "S"pell today? 
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Re: S fund
mmmmmbeer wrote:Is everybody being quiet cause they don't want to break the "S"pell today?
welp, there goes that!
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Travis1984
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Re: S fund
mmmmmbeer wrote:Is everybody being quiet cause they don't want to break the "S"pell today?
FFS Beer! Shhhhhhh.
I'm in a glass cage of emotion!
"Fear of loss is the path to the Dark Side."
Yoda
Yoda
Re: S fund
It's like being a road cop... and telling everuone in the middle of the shift, "why is it so quiet tonight?". :gasps!:
Hahahaha! Oh the boys used to get pissed at me!
Hahahaha! Oh the boys used to get pissed at me!
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Re: S fund
And here comes the day trader sell off.... suckers...
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| L2040 | $52.43 | -0.31% | 2.41% |
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