Buy and Hold.....Nah!

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ProduceMan
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Buy and Hold.....Nah!

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Real acct is 4.63% higher than buy and hold as of 7 Feb (since 2013).
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Re: Buy and Hold.....Nah!

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Congratulations, I'm sure your example will be the grounds which people make life changing decisions. Or....perhaps everyone has a investment strategy that works best for them and they should spend due diligence learning about various options.

Anyhow, congratulations. Glad we could have a good debate on this topic with your excellent example.
I follow a monthly seasonal strategy from gclapper (slightly modified). Its moves can be found by searching for strategy number #25727 on http://www.tspcalc.com

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Re: Buy and Hold.....Nah!

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Thanks
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Re: Buy and Hold.....Nah!

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I wish that I knew that October and December 2019 were
the month's not to be a buy and holder. How did you know?

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Re: Buy and Hold.....Nah!

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To be honest, watching Tommy’s strength charts with dash of luck!
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It's blowing my mind how great the market has been these past two months. B&H looks to be the strategy for the past two months. How much steam does this train have (rhetorical question)?

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Tomanyiron
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Kinda funny about these headlines on CNBC Morning Squawk, "Bernie Sanders launches 2020 bid. Sen. Elizabeth Warren plans to unveil today also. Dow set to fall." :lol:
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Hahaha, that is funny .... everyone is an expert. :/

I thought Sen. Warren already put her name in the hat weeks ago?

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jlozano042 wrote:Hahaha, that is funny .... everyone is an expert. :/

I thought Sen. Warren already put her name in the hat weeks ago?
Yeah you're right, "Sen. Elizabeth Warren plans to unveil today a universal child care plan that would guarantee all American families access to child care."
"A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers." Plato
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Rog - good follow up. Thanks!

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If bernie were to ever win the election, the G fund would be a home for 4 years.
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Billionair wrote:If bernie were to ever win the election, the G fund would be a home for 4 years.
I'd bet against that, and it wouldn't be for political reasons, it'd be for common sense reasons. The white house doesn't have as much as an influence on the market as we like to think it does to satisfy whatever political leaning we have. Unless you're retired, to have your money sitting on the sidelines for 4 years just because your worried about what a president does is letting emotion drive your decision making. From history, folks who let their emotions do the bidding always come out on the short end of the stick in the retirement game.

My advice, stick to your strategy regardless who is in office. The market is influenced by far more than what a president says or is able to accomplish.
I follow a monthly seasonal strategy from gclapper (slightly modified). Its moves can be found by searching for strategy number #25727 on http://www.tspcalc.com

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Re: Buy and Hold.....Nah!

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Even if the market continues this extreme seesaw movement. Are we not adapting, are we not changing our IFT strategies. I view it as a advantage tool.
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Why would anyone get out now. Let's see where it's going. I only wish I was all in since the new year. Oh well...cant complain....NOT feelin' the bern either!

What's gonna bring this mutha down. GREEEEEEED!!!!

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"Is Warren Buffett Expecting a Market Crash?"
https://marketrealist.com/2019/02/is-wa ... rket-crash
It is a question not an assertion.
"The Number That Shows What Warren Buffett Really Thinks of Berkshire Stock"
https://www.barrons.com/articles/berksh ... 1550609872
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Fund Prices2024-03-28

FundPriceDayYTD
G $18.15 0.05% 1.05%
F $19.08 -0.06% -0.74%
C $82.21 0.11% 10.55%
S $82.43 0.30% 6.92%
I $42.57 -0.24% 5.95%
L2065 $16.38 0.02% 8.37%
L2060 $16.39 0.02% 8.38%
L2055 $16.39 0.02% 8.38%
L2050 $32.73 0.01% 6.95%
L2045 $14.91 0.02% 6.58%
L2040 $54.38 0.02% 6.22%
L2035 $14.34 0.02% 5.79%
L2030 $47.67 0.02% 5.38%
L2025 $13.15 0.03% 3.43%
Linc $25.61 0.03% 2.82%

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