F Fund Blues

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rdavid
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F Fund Blues

Post by rdavid »

Can all of us in the F Fund just have a good vent session. Making me very angry this week and the FOMO is real. Sticking with the plan though...

mmmmmbeer
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Re: F Fund Blues

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rdavid wrote:Can all of us in the F Fund just have a good vent session. Making me very angry this week and the FOMO is real. Sticking with the plan though...
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n.shift
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Re: F Fund Blues

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Plan or no plan. Seasonal strategy or no strategy. It doesn’t make sense why anyone would be sitting anywhere other the c,s or I fund. This isn’t your typical year so it’s not going to apply to your typical strategy. 1st Complete tax overhaul in 30 years and 99% of it going to corporate America. You might just see the Dow hit 30k before a correction. I might eventually end up in the F fund but prolly not this year

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fordest
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Re: F Fund Blues

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I think somebody missed the idea of this thread....
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kdfwr310
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Re: F Fund Blues

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Every strategy built has some month that lost between 2004-2017. I've wondered how many would jump ship from the plans when a -4% month hits one of the popular strategies, or even worse back to back negative months.

But if you really think about it the buy and hold folks have a lot of those, and never change a thing. They just look at the totality of the year and what happens at the end. Stay strong my friends, the sun will shine again.

Octjan2
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Re: F Fund Blues

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n.shift wrote:Plan or no plan. Seasonal strategy or no strategy. It doesn’t make sense why anyone would be sitting anywhere other the c,s or I fund. This isn’t your typical year so it’s not going to apply to your typical strategy. 1st Complete tax overhaul in 30 years and 99% of it going to corporate America. You might just see the Dow hit 30k before a correction. I might eventually end up in the F fund but prolly not this year
From my experience over the years this is exactly when to be cautious. We all know the saying “be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful”.

n.shift
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Re: F Fund Blues

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Octjan2 wrote:
n.shift wrote:Plan or no plan. Seasonal strategy or no strategy. It doesn’t make sense why anyone would be sitting anywhere other the c,s or I fund. This isn’t your typical year so it’s not going to apply to your typical strategy. 1st Complete tax overhaul in 30 years and 99% of it going to corporate America. You might just see the Dow hit 30k before a correction. I might eventually end up in the F fund but prolly not this year
From my experience over the years this is exactly when to be cautious. We all know the saying “be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful”.
I’m sure the stock market will cool off and make a correction. It almost has to right? But until then, why not get what you can why it’s there to get? Nothing greedy about it. I’m just a poor man trying to get a small piece of the pie

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Re: F Fund Blues

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kdfwr310 wrote:Every strategy built has some month that lost between 2004-2017. I've wondered how many would jump ship from the plans when a -4% month hits one of the popular strategies, or even worse back to back negative months.

But if you really think about it the buy and hold folks have a lot of those, and never change a thing. They just look at the totality of the year and what happens at the end. Stay strong my friends, the sun will shine again.
And your absolutely correct. All that really matters is the number at the end of the year. Hopefully each and everyone of us has a great year.

mmmmmbeer
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Re: F Fund Blues

Post by mmmmmbeer »

kdfwr310 wrote:Every strategy built has some month that lost between 2004-2017. I've wondered how many would jump ship from the plans when a -4% month hits one of the popular strategies, or even worse back to back negative months.

But if you really think about it the buy and hold folks have a lot of those, and never change a thing. They just look at the totality of the year and what happens at the end. Stay strong my friends, the sun will shine again.
Monthly Stategy Jahbulon's Mix 2016... Aug, Sept, Oct... all negative months. It was my 3rd month in... I was pretty freakin sad... but a friend and I had committed for 12 months.. a 1 year pact. We were going to stick with it.. we had to talk each other off the bridge a few times, but the Monthly Strategy returned about 17% from June 2016 - May 2017.

Don't freak man... stick with your plan.. don't let emotions cloud your comittment.

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evilanne
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Re: F Fund Blues

Post by evilanne »

Based on the data from 2004 to 2017 the mean for January for each of the funds:
F fund C fund S fund I fund
0.70% -0.85% -0.10% -0.86%

I'm good with more than 1/2 of my funds in F for now. I don't do 100% in any fund

Currently if you have been 100% in F all month, you have only lost -0.3% All past losses in January have been <1% for the F Fund. The losses in C, S & I have ranged from -1.85% to -11.93%, each have been negative 6-7 years out of 14 years.

alligatorm
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Re: F Fund Blues

Post by alligatorm »

n.shift wrote:Plan or no plan. Seasonal strategy or no strategy. It doesn’t make sense why anyone would be sitting anywhere other the c,s or I fund. This isn’t your typical year so it’s not going to apply to your typical strategy. 1st Complete tax overhaul in 30 years and 99% of it going to corporate America. You might just see the Dow hit 30k before a correction. I might eventually end up in the F fund but prolly not this year
I'm with ya n.shift....

After seeing what was happening last week, I had to leave the F fund and get back into the C and S.... The job report on Friday even came in below expectations and the markets still went up. As long as there are folks still coming into the stock market, I'm going to ride the trend...
So many folks were calling for "the big correction" last year and they sat on the sidelines and missed one of the best years in a while....
This isn't your typical year - I agree....

Here's looking to collect some nice coin in 2018 - good luck to all.....

man00dude
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Re: F Fund Blues

Post by man00dude »

The OP started this thread for a Vent Session..

IMHO the F fund doesn't like me. If I ever meet the F fund in a bar we will get into a fight.

rdavid
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Re: F Fund Blues

Post by rdavid »

Thanks for the reassurances! Congratulations for all you in the stocks. Hopefully we all make some coin this year and not looking back at January thinking what if

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Re: F Fund Blues

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Hopefully this won't turn into a belly bumping contest on who's strategy is better than another's. The year is young and no one has a crystal ball.
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dstancil
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Re: F Fund Blues

Post by dstancil »

Sitting in G at the moment. Not much above the loss of the F fund at the moment. But a few numbers to keep people on track.

In 2014 January saw a drop of #17842 of 2.9%. It ended the year at 26%. The C fund was the star fund at 13.78% for B&H.

2010 saw a dip of 3.7% in January and in June saw a loss of 4.9%. With an end of year total of 31.5%. C fund B&H was 15% and S fund was 29%.

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Fund Prices2024-03-27

FundPriceDayYTD
G $18.14 0.01% 1.00%
F $19.09 0.26% -0.68%
C $82.11 0.87% 10.42%
S $82.19 1.48% 6.61%
I $42.68 0.56% 6.21%
L2065 $16.38 0.84% 8.36%
L2060 $16.38 0.84% 8.36%
L2055 $16.39 0.84% 8.36%
L2050 $32.73 0.71% 6.94%
L2045 $14.91 0.67% 6.56%
L2040 $54.37 0.63% 6.20%
L2035 $14.34 0.58% 5.77%
L2030 $47.66 0.53% 5.35%
L2025 $13.14 0.31% 3.40%
Linc $25.60 0.24% 2.79%

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