F fund?
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F fund?
Looking to take some money off the table, as I think we’re heading for a slight pullback. What is you opinion on the F fund at this time given the current conditions? Would like less risk exposure, but still a possibility of small returns. Or am I better off just stashing that $$$ in the G fund right now???
I would imagine a pullback would favor the F fund, but correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks!
I would imagine a pullback would favor the F fund, but correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks!
Re: F fund?
Anything is possible in the very short term. Roll the dice. Really. Over the long term it shouldn't matter.tyler3535 wrote:Looking to take some money off the table, as I think we’re heading for a slight pullback. What is you opinion on the F fund at this time given the current conditions? Would like less risk exposure, but still a possibility of small returns. Or am I better off just stashing that $$$ in the G fund right now???
I would imagine a pullback would favor the F fund, but correct me if I’m wrong. Thanks!
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China is back in the news again and not in a good way. At the end of the day, we never had a deal and it's a roll of the die if we will. That equates to volatility. I'm hiding in the G but may buy the dips as I feel we are still in a general Bull market. That's a big 'may'. My 2019 target was 3100 for S&P. W. Buffett is holding a lot of cash on the sidelines and he does things for a reason. This is all short. Long, put your money in the C and S and don't touch it or look at the news for 5 years.
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I just moved to 60% C, S, and I and 40% G and F. Hoping for a 5% pullback then jumping back into equities 100%.
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Tyler, you have an advantage that a lot of us do not. (No it’s not your +20% YTD. Congratulations by the way.)
You have not used any IFTs yet, this month. You can move to F, and then later before end of the month go back to the stock funds.
Another thing, the “F-ickle” fund, sometimes does not move opposite of stocks. For the last 7-8 trading days the F fund has been trending up, along with the C & S funds.
However “To Each His Own”. Meaning I don’t necessarily disagree with the statements made, and respect all the opinions.
You have not used any IFTs yet, this month. You can move to F, and then later before end of the month go back to the stock funds.
Another thing, the “F-ickle” fund, sometimes does not move opposite of stocks. For the last 7-8 trading days the F fund has been trending up, along with the C & S funds.
However “To Each His Own”. Meaning I don’t necessarily disagree with the statements made, and respect all the opinions.
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Re: F fund?
Sure hope the F is the place to be for the slight pullback before the Santa Rally!
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So for December, the sweet spot historically is between the 10th and 17th TRADING days. Over the past 20 years of aggregated Decembers, that period saw a cumulative return of 1.58%. 1st - 9 = 0.06%; 18-end = -0.05%. Data credit to Bloomberg. Past results do not guaranty future performance, you can lose money by investing, blah, blah, blah. I'm sorry, ho ho ho.
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I like it. I built and published my own TSP Fund analyzer (using their TSP.gov daily dataset 2003-2018) and came to these findings, which seem concurrent with yours. My returns data is divided by "week of year":VAmanBulls wrote:So for December, the sweet spot historically is between the 10th and 17th TRADING days. Over the past 20 years of aggregated Decembers, that period saw a cumulative return of 1.58%. 1st - 9 = 0.06%; 18-end = -0.05%. Data credit to Bloomberg. Past results do not guaranty future performance, you can lose money by investing, blah, blah, blah. I'm sorry, ho ho ho.
1) F's Cumulative daily returns (%) for Weeks 50 and 51 is 4.73% for the 15 year period (best of all TSP funds). Comparatively, C,S,I returned -3.03%, -.98, and -1.54%, respectively. Not too shabby!
2) BUT, if limited to only years 2012 to 2018, it's only F cumulative returns only -.03%!!!!
3) You think that's bad? Consider that for 2012-2018, C, S and I returned -6.44%, -6.9% and -2.98%, respectively. That is very bad!
4. Conclusion: What Santa Rally?????
Anger and intolerance are the enemies of correct understanding.
― Mahatma Gandhi
If it's a choice between a difficult truth and a simple lie, people will take the lie every time. Even if it kills them.
― Paul Murray
― Mahatma Gandhi
If it's a choice between a difficult truth and a simple lie, people will take the lie every time. Even if it kills them.
― Paul Murray
Re: F fund?
Trump is still calling for Fed to lower interest rates more, which could be a factor for the F Fund depending on what the Fed does/doesn't do.
Fund Prices2024-03-28
Fund | Price | Day | YTD |
G | $18.15 | 0.05% | 1.05% |
F | $19.08 | -0.06% | -0.74% |
C | $82.21 | 0.11% | 10.55% |
S | $82.43 | 0.30% | 6.92% |
I | $42.57 | -0.24% | 5.95% |
L2065 | $16.38 | 0.02% | 8.37% |
L2060 | $16.39 | 0.02% | 8.38% |
L2055 | $16.39 | 0.02% | 8.38% |
L2050 | $32.73 | 0.01% | 6.95% |
L2045 | $14.91 | 0.02% | 6.58% |
L2040 | $54.38 | 0.02% | 6.22% |
L2035 | $14.34 | 0.02% | 5.79% |
L2030 | $47.67 | 0.02% | 5.38% |
L2025 | $13.15 | 0.03% | 3.43% |
Linc | $25.61 | 0.03% | 2.82% |