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Re: illegal.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:31 pm
by Fredo
tspwizard1 wrote:So today they are delaying the tariffs so the market jumps.. Yay!... Anyone else see what is clearly going on here? This market manipulation is blatant. There needs to be an investigation into unusual market activity by all Trumps and their rich friends. This is a sad situation. This guy has turned this country into a reality show.
Personally I like reality shows. You never know what'll happen next. Though I do hope someday Netflix will pick this up so I don't have to sit through all the ads. My shares of Orville Redenbacher have skyrocketed over the last couple of years.

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:51 pm
by Aitrus
Moved the topic to Anything Goes based on the political nature of the thread.

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:57 pm
by Fredo
Hoo boy, time to get more popcorn.

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:09 am
by Hamish
Very good point, tspwiz.

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:12 am
by TSP Jedi
Ignore the news and use only the charts! All that happened was the markets moved higher to test the top of the breakdown candle. More downside to come

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:34 am
by Fredo
Hamish wrote:Very good point, tspwiz.
What point? And what's good about it?

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:36 am
by Optimus187
Oh look market down! Orange Man bad again. That damn Orange Man needs more money since he isn’t taking a salary

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:48 am
by Fredo
Strange how tspwizard1 threw that grenade and then disappeared.

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 9:56 am
by Optimus187
You're a wizard Harry!!

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:08 am
by Horaenaut
TSP Jedi wrote:Ignore the news and use only the charts! All that happened was the markets moved higher to test the top of the breakdown candle. More downside to come
Now with the 2yr/10yr bond rate inversion, this thing is going down hard.

I was hoping our tweet spike was going to last long enough for me to sell off some S and I without locking in a loss, but I think I'm just gonna have to ride them down.

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:50 am
by jlozano042
Fredo wrote:
Hamish wrote:Very good point, tspwiz.
What point? And what's good about it?
Fredo wrote:Strange how tspwizard1 threw that grenade and then disappeared.
Here's a theory .....

Hamish is a masculine nickname in English that was derived from the Scottish Gaelic word for Seumas, more precisely for the word Sheumais. Sheumais is the equivalent to the English name of James. James, as some know from the biblical Saint, was also known as James the Greater. A not-so-biblical person of greatness was also Oz the great and Powerful who was also known as the great Wizard of Oz.

Hamish .... is tspwizard1.

BOOM!

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:03 pm
by ArrieS
Or, Trumps bluff was called. He threatened tariffs and the Chinese didn't blink and started slowly devaluing their currency.

Trump realized the market was doing to go down and China wasn't going to come to the table so he was faced with the reality that peoples 401ks were going to start seeing a lot of red and now the stuff they buy directly was going to be more expensive.

Not a good situation to be in when trying to get re-elected.

China called his bluff and Trump caved. This only highlights how poorly he has handled this.

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:04 pm
by iheskitt
There are specific algorithms that trade under certain conditions. For example, algorithm driven, computer controlled trades are "triggered" by certain buzz words in the news headlines (Trump, trade, tariff, deal, etc.) so these algorithms drive the market higher or lower. Conversely, there are algorithm driven, computer controlled trades "triggered" by certain technical analysis factors (50 period, 200 period MAs). Tuesdays trade action is a perfect example of that. Trump tweets, hard rip higher, hits 50 day SMA, hard selling pressure. It's not ALWAYS the case, but it's very easy to utilize the obvious to make 2 trades a month and "beat the market". You'll never be always in the green, but 2 moves a month (into G 100% and back into market) can beat "buy and hold" if you are not greedy relatively easily. Mind you, I believe -10% annually is a win when the C fund is -15%

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:01 pm
by chi7834a
This happens and has happened under EVERY president. If you don't understand market manipulation until now, you haven't been paying much attention. It sucks, I know , I get it.

Re: illegal. (Moved to Anything Goes)

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:37 pm
by ArrieS
chi7834a wrote:This happens and has happened under EVERY president. If you don't understand market manipulation until now, you haven't been paying much attention. It sucks, I know , I get it.
Really? Point out the similar ones under Barrack Obama........ He was the last President so they should still be easy to think of.