*Moved* Topic review: White House Retirement Benefits Proposals

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PhilJohn wrote:Mark Cuban. “I can say with 100 percent certainty that there is a really good chance we could see a huge, huge correction,” Cuban told CNN. “That uncertainty potentially as the president of the United States — that’s the last thing Wall Street wants to hear.”
•Erik Jones. “You would see incredible pressure on stock prices if Trump wins and everyone flooding into rare metals like gold and into bonds” in the U.S., Germany and the United Kingdom, Erik Jones, professor at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies, told Politico’s Ben White.
•Justin Wolfers and Eric Zitzewitz. “Given the magnitude of the price movements, we estimate that market participants believe that a Trump victory would reduce the value of the S&P 500, the UK, and Asian stock markets by 10-15%,” University of Michigan professor Wolfers and Dartmouth professor Zitzewitz wrote in a report that supposedly scientifically forecast the market’s reaction to Trump’s victory
•Andrew Ross Sorkin. The New York Times columnist and CNBC anchor wrote: “In all likelihood, a Trump victory would lead to a swift, knee-jerk sell-off. Many investors will choose to sell stocks and ask questions later.” In fairness to Sorkin he hedged his believe in the sell-off by writing: In truth, it’s impossible to predict how the markets would settle into a Trump presidency, despite the speculation on all sides. In all likelihood, it will take time for investors to truly make sense and “math out” how his policies would affect the economy.
•Lawrence G. McDonald of ACG Analytics hedged also, predicting a massive sell-off followed by a relief rally. “Trump will create a colossal panic, but the relief rally will be outstanding,” he told Sorkin. Well, he got the rally right, anyway.
•Simon Johnson, a former chief economist of the IMF, a professor at MIT Sloan, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, and co-founder of a leading economics blog, The Baseline Scenario had perhaps the most panicked reaction, in keeping with his status as America’s most authoritative economists. “With the United States’ presidential election on November 8, and a series of elections and other political decisions fast approaching in Europe, now is a good time to ask whether the global economy is in good enough shape to withstand another major negative shock. The answer, unfortunately, is that growth and employment around the world look fragile. A big adverse surprise – like the election of Donald Trump in the US – would likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession,” Johnson wrote on October 29, 2016.
•Ian Winer, director of equity sales trading for the securities firm Wedbush, predicted a 50 percent fall in stocks if Trump won.
•Bridgewater Associates. “On Tuesday, Bridgewater Associates sent out a note to its clients predicting that the Dow Jones Industrial Average could plunge nearly 2,000 points in one day if Trump is elected president. That would be the biggest one-day slump in stock market history, by more than double, besting the 777 point plunge that happened on October 29, 2008, at the high of the panic surrounding the financial crisis. The drop would translate into a 10.4% dive, and immediately send the stock market into correction territory,’ Fortune‘s Stephen Gandel reported.
•Tobias Levkovich, Citigroup’s chief U.S. equity analyst. “A win for Donald Trump in next week’s election could take a big bite out U.S. stocks, according to the latest forecast from Citi,” CNN Money reported. “In a note to clients late Thursday, the bank said the S&P 500 will fall by 3% to 5% immediately if Trump is elected. A victory by Hillary Clinton wouldn’t move stocks significantly, it predicted.”
•Macroeconomic Advisers. “If Donald Trump wins the election, U.S. stocks (and likely many other markets overseas) will almost certainly tank,” Heather Long wrote for CNN Money. “How big of a drop? Forecasting firm Macroeconomic Advisors predicts an 8% fall in the U.S. A new paper out Friday from the Brookings Institute projects a 10% to 15% nosedive. You get the idea.”

The fake news goes on and on.

If you want to vote blue and have a socialist nation, you wont have to worry about your investments. You will be too busy eating peoples pets for it to be a concern.

Is the above clutter/noise/word vomit how you drown out what little voice of reason is left in your psyche?

Three years of cognitive dissonance takes a toll on a man.

Just sayin'
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tspwizard1
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Re: White House Retirement Benefits Proposals

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Scorpio70 wrote:A budget is a wish list, you can be outrageous as you like. When Senator Warren announced the cost of "Medicare for All," Nancy Pelosi immediately said that it can't happen, no money for it. At least they are working on getting one going.....
There is money for it. It is called slash the needlessly huge military budget. We waste entirely too much money on the military.

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Re: White House Retirement Benefits Proposals

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bloobs wrote:
PhilJohn wrote:Mark Cuban. “I can say with 100 percent certainty that there is a really good chance we could see a huge, huge correction,” Cuban told CNN. “That uncertainty potentially as the president of the United States — that’s the last thing Wall Street wants to hear.”
•Erik Jones. “You would see incredible pressure on stock prices if Trump wins and everyone flooding into rare metals like gold and into bonds” in the U.S., Germany and the United Kingdom, Erik Jones, professor at the Johns Hopkins University School of Advanced International Studies, told Politico’s Ben White.
•Justin Wolfers and Eric Zitzewitz. “Given the magnitude of the price movements, we estimate that market participants believe that a Trump victory would reduce the value of the S&P 500, the UK, and Asian stock markets by 10-15%,” University of Michigan professor Wolfers and Dartmouth professor Zitzewitz wrote in a report that supposedly scientifically forecast the market’s reaction to Trump’s victory
•Andrew Ross Sorkin. The New York Times columnist and CNBC anchor wrote: “In all likelihood, a Trump victory would lead to a swift, knee-jerk sell-off. Many investors will choose to sell stocks and ask questions later.” In fairness to Sorkin he hedged his believe in the sell-off by writing: In truth, it’s impossible to predict how the markets would settle into a Trump presidency, despite the speculation on all sides. In all likelihood, it will take time for investors to truly make sense and “math out” how his policies would affect the economy.
•Lawrence G. McDonald of ACG Analytics hedged also, predicting a massive sell-off followed by a relief rally. “Trump will create a colossal panic, but the relief rally will be outstanding,” he told Sorkin. Well, he got the rally right, anyway.
•Simon Johnson, a former chief economist of the IMF, a professor at MIT Sloan, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, and co-founder of a leading economics blog, The Baseline Scenario had perhaps the most panicked reaction, in keeping with his status as America’s most authoritative economists. “With the United States’ presidential election on November 8, and a series of elections and other political decisions fast approaching in Europe, now is a good time to ask whether the global economy is in good enough shape to withstand another major negative shock. The answer, unfortunately, is that growth and employment around the world look fragile. A big adverse surprise – like the election of Donald Trump in the US – would likely cause the stock market to crash and plunge the world into recession,” Johnson wrote on October 29, 2016.
•Ian Winer, director of equity sales trading for the securities firm Wedbush, predicted a 50 percent fall in stocks if Trump won.
•Bridgewater Associates. “On Tuesday, Bridgewater Associates sent out a note to its clients predicting that the Dow Jones Industrial Average could plunge nearly 2,000 points in one day if Trump is elected president. That would be the biggest one-day slump in stock market history, by more than double, besting the 777 point plunge that happened on October 29, 2008, at the high of the panic surrounding the financial crisis. The drop would translate into a 10.4% dive, and immediately send the stock market into correction territory,’ Fortune‘s Stephen Gandel reported.
•Tobias Levkovich, Citigroup’s chief U.S. equity analyst. “A win for Donald Trump in next week’s election could take a big bite out U.S. stocks, according to the latest forecast from Citi,” CNN Money reported. “In a note to clients late Thursday, the bank said the S&P 500 will fall by 3% to 5% immediately if Trump is elected. A victory by Hillary Clinton wouldn’t move stocks significantly, it predicted.”
•Macroeconomic Advisers. “If Donald Trump wins the election, U.S. stocks (and likely many other markets overseas) will almost certainly tank,” Heather Long wrote for CNN Money. “How big of a drop? Forecasting firm Macroeconomic Advisors predicts an 8% fall in the U.S. A new paper out Friday from the Brookings Institute projects a 10% to 15% nosedive. You get the idea.”

The fake news goes on and on.

If you want to vote blue and have a socialist nation, you wont have to worry about your investments. You will be too busy eating peoples pets for it to be a concern.

Is the above clutter/noise/word vomit how you drown out what little voice of reason is left in your psyche?

Three years of cognitive dissonance takes a toll on a man.

Just sayin'
The question to your answer is fairly simple when looking at this record breaking economy coupled with the strong performance of my investments over the last three years. Then, I simply look at the other side who openly advocate free medical coverage to illegals, confiscation of private property/gun rights, elimination of ICE/Border Agents, and all other insanely crazy policy suggestions.

"Easily".

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. The insurance policy didnt work, it was never Mueller time, and Impeachment failed. It was a perfect call. Like we say in Texas. Nada. Ni modo. Just deal with it

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Optimus187 wrote:. The insurance policy didnt work, it was never Mueller time, and Impeachment failed. It was a perfect call. Like we say in Texas. Nada. Ni modo. Just deal with it
Way to stay in character :lol:

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stilljammi wrote:
Optimus187 wrote:. The insurance policy didnt work, it was never Mueller time, and Impeachment failed. It was a perfect call. Like we say in Texas. Nada. Ni modo. Just deal with it
Way to stay in character :lol:
Right! My God. Mueller said because a President couldn't be charged with a crime, and therefore have legal defense against the charges, he couldn't charge him. However Mueller then said he could not exonerate Trump. The Senate was bought and paid for for that charade of a trial. No witnesses nor documents for the first time in US history. I'm glad you are making money and focused on the short term, instead thinking about of the irrepressible damage to the country long term.

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Re: White House Retirement Benefits Proposals

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tspwizard1 wrote:
stilljammi wrote:
Optimus187 wrote:. The insurance policy didnt work, it was never Mueller time, and Impeachment failed. It was a perfect call. Like we say in Texas. Nada. Ni modo. Just deal with it
Way to stay in character :lol:
Right! My God. Mueller said because a President couldn't be charged with a crime, and therefore have legal defense against the charges, he couldn't charge him. However Mueller then said he could not exonerate Trump. The Senate was bought and paid for for that charade of a trial. No witnesses nor documents for the first time in US history. I'm glad you are making money and focused on the short term, instead thinking about of the irrepressible damage to the country long term.
Not to mention its not a function of congress to exonerate in the first place.

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I love it when people get a 3.1% raise just a month ago, have annual step increases, and still complain that somehow their raises don’t keep up with inflation. How does that make sense? Also, I’ve said this many times here. Those who cling to their pensions in a time where pensions have all but completely disappeared from the private sector, get almost no compassion from non-fed workers. G fund rate goes down, so what? You really think it’s going to make anything when the economy topples over and interest rates hit zero, or possibly negative? What a bunch of whiners. Nobody is getting rich off the G fund. You’re not getting poor off the G fund, either. That’s what it’s there for. This place just gets whacky around election time. Vote your socialists in to office so that your dollar becomes absolutely worthless. Enjoy retirement then, suckers,
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Where da free chicks be at?

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tspwizard1 wrote:Could you give me some examples of how Obama or Clinton attacked Federal employees like this. Every year.
Federal employees had a three-year pay freeze from 2011 through 2013 under Obama.

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tspwizard1 wrote:Could you give me some examples of how Obama or Clinton attacked Federal employees like this. Every year.
--Obama signed off on FERS RAE & FERS FRAE applicable to new hires in 2013/2014 going forward increasing retirement contributions from .8% to 3.1% & 4.4%
--Military Blended Retirement passed in FY 2016, Obama's last budget year.

There was proposed legislation on the high 5 vs high 3 years before I retired & before Trump was ever elected. This is probably the most likely change of those proposed.
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priested wrote:Trumps budget is DOA with Dems running Congress. No one should waste time worrying about this. None of it will happen.
There will be a CR that extends past the election...and possibly after the inauguration...so the new administration can complete the appropriation bills. So....ah, yeah...you should be worried about this NOW.

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NotSoGood wrote:There will be a CR that extends past the election...and possibly after the inauguration...so the new administration can complete the appropriation bills. So....ah, yeah...you should be worried about this NOW.
I’m going to come right out with it, I don’t see how cutting a bit here and there is the worst thing that ever happened. If they end up going from high 3 to high 5 some time before I retire (18 years), then so be it. I have been operating under the assumption that a pension would be non-existent by the time I retire since I joined federal service. I figured it was the way the wind was blowing. Expenses have to be cut somehow, right? They’ve toyed with the idea of increasing the percentage of our health benefits that we have to pay, as well. News flash, we pay 100 percent of our health benefits already. Increasing FERS contributions for all employees (not just new hires) has been thrown about. These things are going to happen. Pension programs are drowning government entities across the country. Expect it. Will it change the way I vote when we are talking about making actual budget cuts that may reduce the deficit? No it will not. I vote on principal.
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SnareMV17 wrote:... This place just gets whacky around election time. Vote your socialists in to office so that your dollar becomes absolutely worthless. Enjoy retirement then, suckers,
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