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NOTE: In the Libyan Strikes 3 B-2 Bombers flew from Missouri to Libya and back and dropped 45 2,000LB bombs or 90,000Lbs. Compare this to a WWII B-17 whose long-range max load was 4500Lbs. It would have taken 20 B-17s to do the same mission and they didn't have the range to do it. Also, look at the B-29 whose maximum long-range bomb load was 20,000Lbs it would have taken 5 bombers to do the same mission and they also did not have the range to accomplish it from Missouri.

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Problems surface for Navy amid federal budget battle (If we can't get a 2011 budget, will we get a 2012 budget??)

Congress' inability to approve a 2011 budget is causing significant problems for the Navy, officials say, by delaying ship repairs; reducing aircraft flight hours and ship steaming hours; postponing construction projects; and disrupting the orderly moves of sailors and their families.
http://hamptonroads.com/2011/03/problem ... get-battle

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Missile Defense Becomes A Navy Mission (Cash with the Mission??)

Earlier this month, the cruiser USS Monterey entered the Mediterranean Sea on a new mission. The Monterey was built
three decades ago at the Bath Iron Works in Maine, but it is equipped with an improved version of Lockheed Martin's
Aegis combat system that enables it to intercept the kinds of ballistic missiles Iran's radical Islamic government
has been developing.
http://blogs.forbes.com/beltway/2011/03 ... y-mission/

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MDA To Compete Aegis Ashore, Pass On Next-Gen THAAD
By Marina Malenic, March 22, 2011

The Defense Department plans to hold an open competition to build the third generation of a medium-range missile defense
system initially built for ship-based applications but now being altered for terrestrial deployment, the head of the
department's Missile Defense Agency (MDA) said yesterday.

The Aegis Ashore program, currently being derived by Lockheed Martin [LMT] from its destroyer-based system, is slated for
initial deployment to Romania in 2015 and then Poland in 2018 under the Obama administration's "phased-adaptive" approach
to missile defense. The new land-based variant of the system is designed to be removable to support worldwide deployment,
in Europe and beyond. The company landed the contract through a sole-source arrangement with the agency because of the
government's urgency to field the system in short order, according to the agency's chief. "I approved a sole-source
justification because of a need to deploy this system very quickly," said Army Lt. Gen. Patrick O'Reilly. "Given where we
are with the system, it made a lot of economic sense."

However, O'Reilly said any such sole-source deal must be accompanied by a plan on how the government will compete a contract
for a follow-on version of the technology. In the case of Aegis Ashore, the third follow-on contract for upgrades in 2020
would be decided in an open contest among multiple contractors. "I will approve a sole-source deal only when we have a plan
for competition going forward," he said. The general was speaking at a missile defense conference in Washington sponsored
annually by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics.

Seeking to trim costs under Defense Secretary Robert Gates' "efficiency initiative," MDA is examining the possibility of
opening $37 billion worth of contracts to industry competition. While the agency has been relying heavily on sole-source
contracts for the past decade, O'Reilly said last year that the government is looking to compete and change many of those
cost-plus deals to fixed-price arrangements (Defense Daily, Aug. 19, 2010).

O'Reilly has said his agency's efforts to compete contract awards is "totally in line" with Gates' fat-trimming exercise.
For example, a follow-on $600 million competition for the Ground-Based Midcourse Defense (GMD) contract is forcing 10-year
incumbent Boeing [BA] to battle against Lockheed Martin. And O'Reilly has said that the Standard Missile-3 Block IIB program
and the Precision Tracking Space System (PTSS) satellite will also soon to be up for competition.

O'Reilly also said yesterday that another Lockheed Martin-built missile defense program, the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense
(THAAD) system, will not be needed in an extended-range version. The agency last year conducted a business-case analysis on the
next-generation system proposed by the company, and O'Reilly said the government has decided not to pursue the effort based on
that study.

Further, the general said an extended-range THAAD would not provide the agency with the ability to expand the number of
simultaneous shoot-downs possible with its missile defense architecture as a whole. As the Pentagon grows its architecture,
one of the main goals is to add "multiple shot opportunities." Specifically, O'Reilly said that by 2020 the agency wants the
ability to "deal with fifty missiles in the air at once" under "seamless worldwide coverage." "That's what it's all about--how
many chances do you have to intercept a missile in a joint architecture," he said. "We are getting much more specific on which
advanced technologies we need in order to achieve our objectives in each phase."
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US May Come Back to MEADS

Lockheed Martin believes there is a good chance the US will recommit to the tri-nation MEADS missile defense program,
driven by its smaller manpower requirements, ease of transport and higher reliability. And Germany and Italian officials
told a senior Lockheed official that they remain committed to MEADS and other countries may well join the program sometime
in the next two years.
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/03/21/us-ma ... -to-meads/

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Navy Committed To 2017 Start For Next-Generation LSD Ships
By Emelie Rutherford, March 22, 2011

Despite budget delays impacting is shipbuilding programs, the Navy is committed to buying the next-generation Landing
Ship Dock (LSD) amphibious vessels in six years, a top service official said. "We're firm in the 2017 requirement for
start of procurement for LSD(X)," Navy acquisition chief Sean Stackley told lawmakers last week.

The Navy currently is planning mid-life upgrades on its LSD-41 Whidbey Island-class of the amphibious ships, work that
Stackley told the House Armed Services Seapower and Projection Forces subcommittee is a "high priority inside of our
budget to ensure that we are able to not just sustain them to their service life, but ensure that they're both mission-effective
and affordable in terms of upkeep and maintenance through the balance of their service life."

However, because Congress has not yet passed a defense appropriations bill for fiscal year 2011, which began last October,
the Navy has canceled shipbuilding availabilities on vessels including those in the LSD-41 class. Stackley, though, testifying
on March 16, still stuck by the 2017 date for LSD(X), a schedule that is tied in with other amphibious ship efforts, including
the delayed LHA-6 America-class amphibious-assault ships.

Work by Northrop Grumman [NOC] on the first LHA-6 has taken longer than planned, and funding for the next ship in the new
class, LHA-7, has been stalled because of the lack of a FY '11 defense appropriations bill, he said. The Navy decided to
extend the service life of the USS Peleliu (LHA-5) to minimize a gap in large-deck amphibious ships; however, its maintenance availability was canceled recently because of the FY '11 budget delay in Congress.

Looking ahead, the Navy plans for the LHA-8 America-class vessel to have a well deck like those on past big-deck amphibious
ships. Summing up these varying efforts, Stackley told the panel: "So, today, while we build the LHA-6, negotiate and work
around the budgets associated with the LHA-7, we are going through a mini-analysis of alternatives for the best method for
restoring well deck to our big decks to support that 2016 (LHA-8) ship and then as well you'll see the advance procurement
preceding that in the (FY) '12 (future years defense plan) FYDP."

The Navy, he said, is "in fact looking at the total force lift requirements in terms of lift capabilities by platform."
"As we complete the LHA- 8, where we restore the well deck and we look at the capabilities assessment that the Marine Corps
is completing for future force requirements...then when we look at the balance of the force, that then defines what lift
capability the LSD(X) has to have."

He added: "So the sequence of events is complete the LHA-8 in terms of its...mini-analysis of alternatives, get the balance
of the lift capability required by the LSD(X), conduct that analysis of alternatives and then get into the (early technology
development) TD phase for LSD(X)."
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Cost of Libya campaign runs counter to belt-tightening plans (Don't forget all the Military and Civilian assistance to Japan)

Politicians on the right and left said the huge expense of Odyssey Dawn, which aims to protect forces opposing
Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi from being slaughtered by his military, is coming at the wrong time.
http://www.stripes.com/news/cost-of-lib ... -1.138546#

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Limitations Keep Raptor on Sidelines in Libya Campaign

One aircraft conspicuous by its absence over the skies of Libya is the U.S. Air Force's vaunted F-22 Raptor air
dominance fighter. The Lockheed Martin-built jet was likely benched due to its inability to communicate with other
coalition aircraft and its limited ability to hit ground targets, analysts said.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i= ... =MID&s=AIR

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US reviewing nuclear arsenal with eye to new cuts

http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/U ... TE=DEFAULT

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Cloudburst

It's all cloud, all the time in federal IT these days, especially since the Office of Management and Budget
ordered agencies to take a cloud-first approach to IT projects. Mary Davie, assistant commissioner for the
Office of Integrated Technology Services in the General Services Administration's Federal Acquisition Service,
provides a reality check on cloud mania today, with a blog post aimed at busting four myths about cloud computing
in the federal sector.
http://techinsider.nextgov.com/2011/03/cloudburst.php

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Agencies Look to the Cloud for Help with Digital ID Requirement

Some agencies are turning to cloud computing providers to fulfill a requirement that they install
smart card readers on all federal facilities by October.
http://cybersecurityreport.nextgov.com/ ... 2_help.php

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Marines going green to save lives on battlefield, avert attacks on fuel convoys in Afghanistan

CAMP PENDLETON, Calif. - The Marine Corps is going green to save lives rather than to save the planet.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/marines-g ... ltoafriend

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Wisconsin reps try to derail VA/Defense open source health records system

The lawmakers back a commercial approach that could benefit their state's Epic Systems.
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?a ... dcn=e_gvet

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Old report boosts medal push for WWI hero from NY (Nice Gesture but Shouldn't Congress be working on a budget??)

Efforts to get a Medal of Honor posthumously awarded to a World War I soldier from Albany are being bolstered
by a long-forgotten report written nearly a century ago by the commander of U.S. forces in Europe.
http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/U ... 2-10-23-58

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DoD grant paid for landmark face transplant (Why DOD and Not DEPT of Health)

BOSTON - A Texas construction worker horribly disfigured in a power line accident has undergone
the nation's first full face transplant in hopes of smiling again and feeling kisses from his...
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/03/a ... nt-032211/

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GSA boosts per diem rates in major metro areas

Federal employees on business travel to New York City and San Francisco will have more money
for hotel expenses from April through September.
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?a ... dcn=e_gvet

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Beyond the Budget

Senior executives can inspire innovation, even under fiscal constraints.
http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/0311/032311mm.htm

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Lawmakers Challenge Obama's Libya Authority

President Obama's authority to order military action against Libya without congressional approval is being challenged -- and
critics are using candidate Obama's words against him. Dennis Kucinich says he will offer an amendment to the next budget
resolution prohibiting taxpayer dollars from being used to fund military operations.
http://www.military.com/news/article/la ... ority.html

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Progress cited on reorganization of government

OMB's Jeffrey Zients says effort may involve short-term costs to achieve long-term gains.
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?a ... dcn=e_gvet

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Appropriations Chief Spends Less and Cuts More

Representative Harold Rogers used to send tens of millions of dollars home to Kentucky,
but a new mission has him looking to trim the federal budget.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/us/po ... l?emc=eta1

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Wisconsin Political Peace?

There's still not a lot of amity between the two parties in the Wisconsin Statehouse following
a bruising budget battle this past month.
http://whatsbrewin.nextgov.com/2011/03/ ... _peace.php

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Detroit Census Confirms a Desertion Like No Other (Motor Out City)

Laying bare a startling example of urban collapse, data showed the population
falling by 25 percent in a decade.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/us/23 ... l?emc=eta1

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FBI probing package with explosives left at Detroit federal building for 3 weeks

The FBI is investigating a suspicious package containing explosives left unattended by security guards
for three weeks inside a 26-story federal building in Detroit, according to law enforcement officials.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/ ... ltoafriend

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Obama Calls for an Economic Cure for Illegal Immigration

The president ended his Latin American tour with a message to Republicans on immigration legislation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/world ... l?emc=eta1

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Illegal immigrants in US Marine uniforms arrested (Clever but about 5-10)

http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/U ... 3-00-21-36

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Nuclear Power Loses Support in New Poll (what are we going to use instead?? Wood??)

What had been growing acceptance of nuclear power in the United States has
eroded sharply in the wake of Japan's crisis.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/us/23 ... l?emc=eta1

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US Wars 'Short, Decisive, Rare;' Libya Bad Example

With the UN-sanctioned operations over Libya growing more complex by the day, with allied jets crashing, pilots
being rescued, cruise missiles slamming into air defenses and aircraft taking out Libyan tanks and the costs to
American taxpayers soaring, it's a good time to have some of our experts examine the basic question: is this a
good idea? Doug Macgregor, retired Army colonel and pungent national security analyst, argues below that the Libyan
operations are exactly the wrong sort of operations for America's military to engage
http://www.dodbuzz.com/2011/03/22/us-wa ... d-example/

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Taliban Assassinations Impede Governance

For seven years, Rahim Baz Mohammad was an Afghan police detective on a spectacularly perilous beat - a province
sitting directly between the capital and Taliban strongholds to the south and east.
http://www.military.com/news/article/ta ... nance.html

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Six Protesters Killed in Syria

At least six people were reported killed when Syrian security forces attacked protesters
who had taken refuge in a mosque in the center of the southern city of Dara'a.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/world ... l?emc=eta1

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Yemen's Leader Defiant Amid Protests and Defections

The nature of President Ali Abdullah Saleh's proposal was unclear, and the opposition
called for his immediate exit.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/world ... l?emc=eta1

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Yemeni parliament gives president emergency powers

http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/M ... TE=DEFAULT

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Egypt's Interior Ministry building set on fire during police protest

CAIRO - The Egyptian Interior Ministry, long a symbol of heavy-handed repression,
was set ablaze Tuesday during a protest by police officers demanding more pay and
better working conditions from the military-run government.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/egy ... ltoafriend

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Arab Revolts Force Diplomats to Remake Lives and Careers

An extraordinary wave of sudden ex-diplomats are, depending on one's point of view, exhibiting
uncommon courage or a savvy instinct for self-preservation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/world ... l?emc=eta1

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Official: 24 more missiles launched over Libya

WASHINGTON - Coalition forces on Tuesday pounded Libyan military targets with 24 more Tomahawk missiles,
expanding the no-fly zone over the North African nation but suffering the loss of a U.S....
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2011/03/a ... ya-032211/

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Investigation Underway Into Libya Rescue

The commander in charge of the allied no-fly zone operation over Libya said March 22 that an investigation
is underway into the rescue of two Air Force aviators who ejected from their stricken F-15E into rebel-held
territory near Bengazhi.
http://www.military.com/news/article/in ... escue.html

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Marines Face Questions About Rescue of Officers in Libya

An American pilot and a weapons officer were rescued after their warplane crashed near Benghazi,
but Marines faced accusations that shots were fired at villagers.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/world ... l?emc=eta1

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Still No Decision Who Will Oversee Libya Strikes

BRUSSELS - NATO agreed March 22 to use naval and air power to enforce an arms embargo on Libya, but allies
remained at odds over whether to give the alliance control of the international military campaign. .
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6028476

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Obama Seeks to Unify Allies as More Airstrikes Rock Tripoli

President Obama worked to bridge differences among allies about how to manage the campaign, and forces loyal
to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi showed no sign of ending their sieges of rebel-held cities.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/world ... l?emc=eta1

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Allied strikes pummel Libya's air force but do little to stop attacks on civilians

TRIPOLI, Libya - Four days of allied strikes have battered Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi's air force and largely
destroyed his long-range air defense systems, a top U.S. commander said Tuesday. But there was little evidence that
the attacks had stopped regime forces from killing civilians or shifted the balance of power in favor of the rebels.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/us- ... ltoafriend

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Libyan forces intensify shelling of rebels in east

http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/A ... TE=DEFAULT

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Libya operation causing headaches for U.S. contractors, grantees (????)

U.S. government has spent more than $25 million in recent years to perform an array of
work in the now-embattled country.
http://www.govexec.com/story_page.cfm?a ... dcn=e_gvet

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France: Set Up Body To Oversee Libyan Ops

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=6029427

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Pacific Cmdr: Mandatory Evacuation Unlikely

The U.S. military does not expect to turn its "voluntary departure" for servicemembers' families living
in Japan into a mandatory evacuation, the head of the U.S. Pacific Command said Tuesday night.
http://www.military.com/news/article/pa ... ikely.html

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Disruption in Japan Slows Rise in Oil Price

Japan's oil demand has dropped by about a million barrels a day, but analysts warned
the reduction was only temporary.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/busin ... l?emc=eta1

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After quake, uncertainty about Priuses, silicon chips and other Japanese exports

The earthquake in Japan continues to threaten the U.S. autos and electronics industries with potential shortages,
as plant shutdowns have limited production of silicon wafers for computer chips, led to supply problems that triggered
temporary layoffs at two General Motors plants, and helped boost the price of the popular Toyota Prius.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/ ... ltoafriend

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Some Worry That Success of Apple Is Tied to Japan

Apple's difficulty in meeting demand for a product like the iPad 2 may get worse in the months to come,
some analysts say, as critical components are delayed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/23/techn ... l?emc=eta1

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Concern in Tokyo over spike in tap water radiation

http://ap.stripes.com/dynamic/stories/A ... 3-01-46-04

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TSPking wrote:NOTE: In the Libyan Strikes 3 B-2 Bombers flew from Missouri to Libya and back and dropped 45 2,000LB bombs or 90,000Lbs. Compare this to a WWII B-17 whose long-range max load was 4500Lbs. It would have taken 20 B-17s to do the same mission and they didn't have the range to do it. Also, look at the B-29 whose maximum long-range bomb load was 20,000Lbs it would have taken 5 bombers to do the same mission and they also did not have the range to accomplish it from Missouri.


My career started with the B2s. Truly an awesome mission. Was there for "Shock and Awe"!
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Was it necessary to put that many flying hours on the airframe to drop a few bombs? Couldn't that mission have been better accomplished from a carrier? How many spar cracks, engine changes, navigational equipment failures did this mission cause? How much gas did we expend doing aerial refueling? Sounds like SAC is desperate to stay in the mix or the budget cuts have really hurt our carrier force. I don't think it was that important to actually demonstrate our long range B-2 capability. It would have been better to have handled it from a location more local to the site. And, like Afghanistan and Iraq, I am baffled by the need to use up our weapon inventory to interfere with a sovereign nation's internal politics. What if Wisconsin began revolting against their one-term governor and Britain and France bombed our airfields to prevent a military response to this uprising? How would we feel then?

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One of the beauties of the B2 program is the stealth aspect. Not sure of air threats still present in Libya (we have lost one jet fighter, was it shot down?).

90k pounds of bombs from a carrier? That would be an awful lot of sorties.

Where's the nearest B52s? Any in Europe right now? Was stealth required?

I think actual range is still classified; but the range of the aircraft on a load of fuel is very good. Only 2 sorties required. Very impressive.

Internal Lybian politics and world involvement, now there's a debate to be had.
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The airframe inspection program (Periodic, Isochronal or whatever) when they remove panels and do crack detection checks will reveal the actual cost of this mission. Cloud, you're going to need a very strong, probably highly classified argument to defend your position. Actually, it will probably be posted in The Air Force magazine's Jane's comments next year as to the target, success rate, and actual cost of this mission. I still don't see the need for it, but if we can bomb Libya certainly Europe could drop into America to review our retirement and medical coverage programs, don't you think? Tit for tat?

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crondanet5 - I have been making the EXACT same argument - especially this last week!

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crondanet, I'm years out of the loop on the B2 program. When I was leaving, they were going to new panel removal technology. Inspections were to become a much simpler process. You're right though, it's not the cheapest airframe to maintain.
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When I was working F-15's, a newbie from the cargo side of the air business, all these TAC guys were gloating over this marvelous "new" airplane. Only I looked at the tail (aka vertical stabilizer, and it said 74 on it. That meant the airplane was built in 1974. How old is the B-2 now? And we rejoice it can make it across the pond? I thought we kept planes like that secreted away for real missions. And where are the new planes, tanks, and ships? History tells us civilizations last only as long as they continue to develop new weapons. To place our future existence on stuttering drones to me is ridiculous. Have you seen some of the new Russian planes?

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I love Russian engineered aircraft!

B2s were delivered in 1991 if I remember right. Darn things are 20 years old now!

I have a couple friends who fly drones. They hate it. Put them back in the cockpit they say!
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I figure within 3 years we will see a dazzling array of Chinese warplanes both in simplicity and sophistication in some public display of China's ability to defend its borders and those of its allies (i.e., South America, Africa, and the Middle East). And how about a thousand little submarines that cannot be heard or seen in the Pacific? What is our response? Weapons from a century ago? A millenium ago?

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