What leaderboard options do you want?

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Re: What leaderboard options do you want?

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phxmrc wrote:I kinda like the day leader board although I don't need to see the 5/10 days. I do like YTD + 30/90/180/360 days along with past years or something along those lines. I agree with others it would be nice to filter out the "False leaders". Maybe have the accounts (and new accounts) active for xxx amount of months in a row without a reset to qualify for leader board?
I find the Date Range rankings helpful in selecting members to follow, because they show whose strategy is currently "hot".

YTD rankings can be skewed by lucky - or unlucky - moves early in the year, whereas 360 days (i.e. a rolling year or PIP) indicates consistency. However, anything less than a month can also be misleading. 30-90-360 (3x & 4x intervals) is a good subset of the current time intervals. 25-50-100-200 (geometrically constant 2x intervals) is another good progression.

Showing only the top 5 over each time range on a single page isn't always useful. It would be better to see the rankings in separate columns for each time period, along with the current allocation, its date, and previous allocation. It would be even better to be able to sort on each column, and/or toggle between rank and gain/loss - or have corresponding pages for Rank and Gain/Loss. To be really flexible, the time intervals shown be user-adjustable from the defaults.

For example (by Rank or by %change)
Member YTD 25day 50day 100day 200day 1year Current_Allocation Allocation_Date Previous_Allocation
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Re: What leaderboard options do you want?

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Pending allocations on the leaderboard main screen.
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Another thing to consider is ties. When members have the same gain (e.g.they been in the same fund over the entire time period) their ranks shoud be the same, i.e. 1 more than the number of members who have a higher gain. Right now the ranking for "ties" is arbitrary. PGA leaderboards are a good example.
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Re: What leaderboard options do you want?

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12squared wrote: Showing only the top 5 over each time range on a single page isn't always useful. It would be better to see the rankings in separate columns for each time period, along with the current allocation, its date, and previous allocation. It would be even better to be able to sort on each column, and/or toggle between rank and gain/loss - or have corresponding pages for Rank and Gain/Loss. To be really flexible, the time intervals shown be user-adjustable from the defaults.

For example (by Rank or by %change)
Member YTD 25day 50day 100day 200day 1year Current_Allocation Allocation_Date Previous_Allocation
So what I'm working on won't be limited to the top 5. The leaderboard will be all-inclusive. It will be a vertically scrolling table with every user in it. Based on whatever preset you click will determine the sorting, and the returns shown, of the table.

This will work really fast because the data is downloaded once per day and cached in the user's browser. Changing the time frame, if you use a preset, will refresh the table instantly without contacting the server.

If you want to be able to input specific dates, then it won't be instant. It will be a slight delay as it contacts the server, similar to how the Seasonal Builder at TSPcalc usually works (the table loads in the background without refreshing the whole page).

Note the seasonal builder is currently offline, so if you've never seen this before you'll just have to wait until i fix the seasonal builder.
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When you say vertically scrolling table, I’m guessing there won’t be any pages to click?
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ProduceMan wrote:When you say vertically scrolling table, I’m guessing there won’t be any pages to click?
Fantasy TSP, My FantasyTSP, My Watchlist, Leader Board

Are all going to be on one page now. Set up similar to the TSP calc Seasonal Calculator,

Upper left block FantasyTSP summary. Upper right block Leaderboard, with options.
Below those two blocks, graphs.
Below graphs, Balance History and Allocation History for the selected FantasyTSP user.

All on one page!
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Re: What leaderboard options do you want?

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mjedlin66 wrote:
12squared wrote: Showing only the top 5 over each time range on a single page isn't always useful. It would be better to see the rankings in separate columns for each time period, along with the current allocation, its date, and previous allocation. It would be even better to be able to sort on each column, and/or toggle between rank and gain/loss - or have corresponding pages for Rank and Gain/Loss. To be really flexible, the time intervals shown be user-adjustable from the defaults.

For example (by Rank or by %change)
Member YTD 25day 50day 100day 200day 1year Current_Allocation Allocation_Date Previous_Allocation
So what I'm working on won't be limited to the top 5. The leaderboard will be all-inclusive. It will be a vertically scrolling table with every user in it. Based on whatever preset you click will determine the sorting, and the returns shown, of the table.

This will work really fast because the data is downloaded once per day and cached in the user's browser. Changing the time frame, if you use a preset, will refresh the table instantly without contacting the server.

If you want to be able to input specific dates, then it won't be instant. It will be a slight delay as it contacts the server, similar to how the Seasonal Builder at TSPcalc usually works (the table loads in the background without refreshing the whole page).

Note the seasonal builder is currently offline, so if you've never seen this before you'll just have to wait until i fix the seasonal builder.
Sounds great - except for the implication of a single ranking time period. Will we still be able to see this on an individual member's summary page?

Would you consider a pick list of "standard" ranges (StockCharts.com is good example), making it easy to switch between time frames? A choice by a quantity of days, weeks, months or years would be easier than having to pick begin & end dates on a calendar.
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12squared wrote: Sounds great - except for the implication of a single ranking time period. Will we still be able to see this on an individual member's summary page?

Would you consider a pick list of "standard" ranges (StockCharts.com is good example), making it easy to switch between time frames? A choice by a quantity of days, weeks, months or years would be easier than having to pick begin & end dates on a calendar.
You've misunderstood. The whole point of this thread is to establish what those standard ranges are.
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Re: What leaderboard options do you want?

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mjedlin66 wrote:
12squared wrote: Sounds great - except for the implication of a single ranking time period. Will we still be able to see this on an individual member's summary page?

Would you consider a pick list of "standard" ranges (StockCharts.com is good example), making it easy to switch between time frames? A choice by a quantity of days, weeks, months or years would be easier than having to pick begin & end dates on a calendar.
You've misunderstood. The whole point of this thread is to establish what those standard ranges are.
30 & 90 days. 1, 2 & 3 years.
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Re: What leaderboard options do you want?

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Displaying the rankings beside the returns on each member's FantasyTSP page would be more insightful than the "Top 5" page.
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Re: What leaderboard options do you want?

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It would be great to see pending allocations next to current allocations on the leaderboard. Thanks.
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How can I see my current position on the leader board?

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Quaterly would be awesome.

I also wish the daily fund prices popped up when we open our fantasy account instead of having to hop back to the index page.

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With the old version I was able to get a text alert to my I-phone of the top leaders I'm following. Is that going to be available or am I missing how to make the connection, thanks

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JfHorse wrote: Sat Mar 06, 2021 6:54 pm With the old version I was able to get a text alert to my I-phone of the top leaders I'm following. Is that going to be available or am I missing how to make the connection, thanks
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