Moving to F on Tuesday?

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bloobs
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Moving to F on Tuesday?

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For those seasonal strategists moving to F fund on Tuesday, are you considering moving to G fund instead?

The F seems to have a lot of Fundamental and Technical factors adversely impacting it short, mid, and possibly long term.

Agree or disagree?

acidfly
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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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It's either stay in S or move to G for me.

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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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The F fund is trading below the 10, 20, 50 etc moving averages and I will stay in S or move to G. That being said, the F fund is very close to being oversold so there may be some green days ahead. The S fund is in the overbought range so tomorrow's move will hopefully be a good one especially if we get a green day. I'm going to monitor and see. I may even move to G for a few days and jump back in C and/or S if there are some red days and the RSI indicators are within range. Good luck!!

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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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bloobs wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:36 pm For those seasonal strategists moving to F fund on Tuesday, are you considering moving to G fund instead?

The F seems to have a lot of Fundamental and Technical factors adversely impacting it short, mid, and possibly long term.

Agree or disagree?
I agree, but the few strategies I’ve seen have IFTies on the 12th Trading day, which is Wednesday.
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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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ProduceMan wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:55 am
bloobs wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:36 pm For those seasonal strategists moving to F fund on Tuesday, are you considering moving to G fund instead?

The F seems to have a lot of Fundamental and Technical factors adversely impacting it short, mid, and possibly long term.

Agree or disagree?
I agree, but the few strategies I’ve seen have IFTies on the 12th Trading day, which is Wednesday.
Very true, however, we are certainly within the window of the "seasonal" move.

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ProduceMan wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:55 am
bloobs wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:36 pm For those seasonal strategists moving to F fund on Tuesday, are you considering moving to G fund instead?

The F seems to have a lot of Fundamental and Technical factors adversely impacting it short, mid, and possibly long term.

Agree or disagree?
I agree, but the few strategies I’ve seen have IFTies on the 12th Trading day, which is Wednesday.
Yes, most popular (e.g. successful) strats kick out of C/S/I sometime this week for either G of F--since its the last full week of earnings season. My dilemma is that I dont think F's potential gains for the next few weeks are worth the risk.

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I am avoiding F for now. Looking at the resent history (last six years) the S has done well through the end of Feb. This is not a typical year though. I only have one IFT remaining this month and I am trying to decide if I protect my gains in the G fund or move to C or I to avoid the bigger losses that the S can have. Looks like I will hold out in the S at least one more day.
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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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Agree. Would not be buying ANY bond fund right now. G fund over F. Use caution with other stock indexes however. We have a valuation bubble going on in my view. Rate increases could pop these crazy forward PE's. They are flying a yellow flag on my racetrack.

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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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tnwhiskey wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 8:35 am
ProduceMan wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:55 am
bloobs wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:36 pm For those seasonal strategists moving to F fund on Tuesday, are you considering moving to G fund instead?

The F seems to have a lot of Fundamental and Technical factors adversely impacting it short, mid, and possibly long term.

Agree or disagree?
I agree, but the few strategies I’ve seen have IFTies on the 12th Trading day, which is Wednesday.
Very true, however, we are certainly within the window of the "seasonal" move.
I agree
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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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bloobs wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 9:14 am
ProduceMan wrote: Tue Feb 16, 2021 5:55 am
bloobs wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:36 pm For those seasonal strategists moving to F fund on Tuesday, are you considering moving to G fund instead?

The F seems to have a lot of Fundamental and Technical factors adversely impacting it short, mid, and possibly long term.

Agree or disagree?
I agree, but the few strategies I’ve seen have IFTies on the 12th Trading day, which is Wednesday.
Yes, most popular (e.g. successful) strats kick out of C/S/I sometime this week for either G of F--since its the last full week of earnings season. My dilemma is that I dont think F's potential gains for the next few weeks are worth the risk.
I agree, I like to use G instead of F.
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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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I don't even consider F any more. I have been skeptical for a long time, but got suckered back in a couple times. Most of the strategies I am watching are G today (Wed) but I keep eyeballing that trend.

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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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Thanks Bloobs. I made a comment in another area, but this chat answered my question.

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I moved to -F- a week ago Friday, maybe a day too early, because I'm down about 1 1/2 percent from where i'd be if I had stayed put in -I- on Monday. I think most of the markets are getting too shakey high for me. I'm too close to retirement for this kind of risk. If you think that the markets are due for a significant correction along with a bump in inflation, then -F- may be the place to be. Just look at what happened late last February/March when a lot of folks decided at about the same time to get out of stocks and switch to bonds. -F- fund caught a nice bump before everything started to crash.

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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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The last three times I've moved to F, it sucked $ from me. I'm in G currently, per plan. My Dailey has me going back into stocks mid March, but I think if the market hasn't corrected by then, I might just stay in G and wait. It will be a hard choice because I really wanted to stick to my plan, but....

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Re: Moving to F on Tuesday?

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The F fund seems to fall in-line with of C and S now. I need to rethink my F/G strategy, because the F fund makes me want to say the F word a lot!

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