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VXF Traders or Investors

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Apparently today is VXF ex-dividend day. What are its effects for those who bought it prior to today but are planning to sell in a week or so?

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Does the share price fall by the amount of the dividend? Maybe that's why you went to G fund at just the right time. Very smart move.

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Most always an investor in my opinion . Buy and hold is hard to beat. If you look at the leader board by dollar balance , S fund is number 8 highest balance of all players. As you get closer to withdrawal age, I recommend having an allocation in funds based on age and risk tolerance. If I could go back in time I would have stayed 100% in S fund , Roth 70% and traditional 30%.

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Are you trading TSPcalc strategies in a brokerage account? If so, what’s the timing you buy/sell during the day?
bloobs wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:53 am Apparently today is VXF ex-dividend day. What are its effects for those who bought it prior to today but are planning to sell in a week or so?

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Kal1981 wrote: Wed May 05, 2021 12:40 am Are you trading TSPcalc strategies in a brokerage account? If so, what’s the timing you buy/sell during the day?
bloobs wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:53 am Apparently today is VXF ex-dividend day. What are its effects for those who bought it prior to today but are planning to sell in a week or so?
yes, i also apply seasonals to my taxable and non taxable brokerage accounts. typically i use different strategies for these accounts compared to my account tsp--for "diversification".

when the trade is a shift to/from cash (g fund equivalent) and an etf (VXF etc), i just use a "on the close" market buy or sell order. But its trickier if you are switching between say VXF and IVV; i usually execute a market sell order at 3:40pm and then quickly enter in the follow-on market buy on the close order before 3:45pm (the cut-off time for entering on the close orders). Those 5 minutes are crucial since you have to quickly determine how much your sell order sold for, in order to apply it to your next buy order. These trades are not gonna be perfect and will result in deviations in your actual returns. Some days you lose out a few tenths of a percent but some days you gain more....yay.

An advantage of trading daily seasonals outside of TSP is that you are not held by the 2 IFT a month rule--so i can get actually follow more than 1 strategy in a single IRA account, for example. Why? Because i like to spread my risk by mixing a high mean/high stdev strat with a low mean/low stdev strat. Of course, that can get really complex to manage but i kinda enjoy finding out how various strategies work out over the course of a year.

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Regularguy wrote: Thu Mar 25, 2021 3:53 pm Does the share price fall by the amount of the dividend? Maybe that's why you went to G fund at just the right time. Very smart move.
This is true for investments outside the TSP. Because of the way the TSP functions, they incorporate that dividend into the price, causing for different outcomes than you would expect throughout the year. I only discovered how different this was after doing extensive backtesting using normal funds as proxies (e.g. IVV, EFA, etc.). This is also why, if you decide to mirror your TSP Calc strategy with your regular investing account, you often get different results.

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