S Fund Observation

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Re: S Fund Observation

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wingchaser wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 11:28 am ^RUT (S Fund) candlestick just depicted a strong GAP UP formation & surged across it’s SMA 50. Also of note, is the MACD just went POSITIVE with an important cross-over. Indication (here) is for possible, if not probable, positive upward momentum (in the short-term).

Here’s hopin’...

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How strong is the correlation between ^RUT and the $DWCPF? Isn't the latter a much better proxy for the S Fund?

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bloobs wrote: Thu May 27, 2021 11:34 am How strong is the correlation between ^RUT and the $DWCPF? Isn't the latter a much better proxy for the S Fund?
That was my understanding as well. When the S Fund first came online in 2001, it followed the Wilshire 4500. Then it switched to the Russel 2000 for a few years, and then transitioned to it's present index in the DWCPF.
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Re: S Fund Observation

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If I had to guesstimate, I would say that they are “loosely-coupled”.

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I always appreciate technical indicators discussed; thanks wingchaser and bloobs

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Re: S Fund Observation

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Wanted to bring Tomanyiron's observation back to the top of forum - "The past four months, or so, the S fund (DWCPF) has been bouncing between 2060 and 2230."

The S fund has peaked at $84+ 3 times this years before dropping back down to a low of $77+.

February 12 - $84.72 (dropped back to $77.38 on March 4)
March 15 - $84.15 (dropped back to $77.51 on March 24)
Apri 29 - $84.81 (dropped back to $77.80 on May 12)

Today (7 June) we made it back to $84 (almost to the penny).

Any thoughts from the crowd on S Fund trajectory? Are we going back down into the $70s? Think there is any more upward movement possible in the short-term?

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KTSPcalc wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:21 pm Wanted to bring Tomanyiron's observation back to the top of forum - "The past four months, or so, the S fund (DWCPF) has been bouncing between 2060 and 2230."

The S fund has peaked at $84+ 3 times this years before dropping back down to a low of $77+.

February 12 - $84.72 (dropped back to $77.38 on March 4)
March 15 - $84.15 (dropped back to $77.51 on March 24)
Apri 29 - $84.81 (dropped back to $77.80 on May 12)

Today (7 June) we made it back to $84 (almost to the penny).

Any thoughts from the crowd on S Fund trajectory? Are we going back down into the $70s? Think there is any more upward movement possible in the short-term?
Great notes! Adding to that, seasonal trends for June copied from Aitrus' Seasonal Musings:
Fund – A “good” month is a CAGR of 1% or better, and a PNR of 70% or better.
Since 1988: CAGR 0.68%, PNR 61%
Last 20 years: CAGR -0.02%, PNR 60%
Last 10 years: CAGR 1.71%, PNR 60%
Last 5 years: CAGR 2.740%, PNR 60%

June is a pretty ugly month for the S Fund, but an outside good 2019 and 2020 has pulled up the numbers a bit from previous reporting.

The best years were 2000 (12.01%), 2019 (6.80%) and 1988 (6.17%). The worst years were 2008 (-7.63%), 2010 (-6.90%) and 2002 (-6.67%).
The S Fund is currently at 1.43% for the month.
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Re: S Fund Observation

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mjedlin66 wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:14 pm
KTSPcalc wrote: Mon Jun 07, 2021 7:21 pm Wanted to bring Tomanyiron's observation back to the top of forum - "The past four months, or so, the S fund (DWCPF) has been bouncing between 2060 and 2230."

The S fund has peaked at $84+ 3 times this years before dropping back down to a low of $77+.

February 12 - $84.72 (dropped back to $77.38 on March 4)
March 15 - $84.15 (dropped back to $77.51 on March 24)
Apri 29 - $84.81 (dropped back to $77.80 on May 12)

Today (7 June) we made it back to $84 (almost to the penny).

Any thoughts from the crowd on S Fund trajectory? Are we going back down into the $70s? Think there is any more upward movement possible in the short-term?
Great notes! Adding to that, seasonal trends for June copied from Aitrus' Seasonal Musings:
Fund – A “good” month is a CAGR of 1% or better, and a PNR of 70% or better.
Since 1988: CAGR 0.68%, PNR 61%
Last 20 years: CAGR -0.02%, PNR 60%
Last 10 years: CAGR 1.71%, PNR 60%
Last 5 years: CAGR 2.740%, PNR 60%

June is a pretty ugly month for the S Fund, but an outside good 2019 and 2020 has pulled up the numbers a bit from previous reporting.

The best years were 2000 (12.01%), 2019 (6.80%) and 1988 (6.17%). The worst years were 2008 (-7.63%), 2010 (-6.90%) and 2002 (-6.67%).
The S Fund is currently at 1.43% for the month.

What you're describing sounds like a triple top and the chart even confirms it....which means:

-A triple top is formed by three peaks moving into the same area, with pullbacks in between.
-A triple top is considered complete, indicating a further price slide, once the price moves below pattern support.
-A trader exits longs or enters shorts when the triple top completes.
-If trading the pattern, a stop loss can be placed above resistance (peaks).
-The estimated downside target for the pattern is the height of the pattern subtracted from the breakout point.

Someone with better charting skills than I could confirm my suspicions....hence I'm gonna exit the market temporarily to avoid any downward fall.


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Re: S Fund Observation

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It appears that things may be lining up with seasonality for the S fund. Stay tuned

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In a good way or a bad way?

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sconey wrote: Wed Jun 09, 2021 12:57 pm In a good way or a bad way?
Good if you are in G or F because of the "seasonal" dip. Dip around the 9th and 10th and the big dip around the 18th and 19th. Many of the seasonal strats are in G or F until around the 25th of the month and then get back into S which is the seasonal monthly bottom.

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Re: S Fund Observation

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Thx for the quick response. That's what I thought you meant, but just wanted to make sure. Good luck!

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Fund Prices2021-06-18

FundPriceDayYTD
G $16.61 0.00% 0.60%
F $20.88 0.32% -1.49%
C $62.45 -1.31% 11.69%
S $82.88 -1.28% 11.70%
I $38.60 -1.78% 9.07%
L2065 $13.75 -1.45% 10.74%
L2060 $13.75 -1.45% 10.74%
L2055 $13.75 -1.45% 10.74%
L2050 $28.08 -1.17% 8.79%
L2045 $12.83 -1.10% 8.27%
L2040 $46.86 -1.03% 7.76%
L2035 $12.40 -0.94% 7.17%
L2030 $41.33 -0.86% 6.58%
L2025 $11.75 -0.66% 5.27%
Linc $22.90 -0.31% 2.77%

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