Why does TSP require selling everything when moving shares.
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Why does TSP require selling everything when moving shares.
Wish I could designate which shares I move in TSP. Example: I was 80%C and 20%G invested yet when transferring $10,000 out, it came out of both. I could not request the money come solely from G. This makes me wait until I am 100%G to transfer money. One can never ensure which day the funds will be transferred out. Another Example: I am 100%G in my real tsp and ready to invest again. I am Thinking on returning to C Fund. Yet I would love to buy some S in smaller amount. If I buy both, it is not always advantageous to sell both at the same time. Yet TSP will have me buy and sell all at the same time, even if I want to retain one of them (S or C) I could be losing/gaining on one and wanting to retain it.
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Re: Why does TSP require selling everything when moving shares.
The why is called Pro Rata. It’s a proportional withdrawal system and is how the TSP works. Your 10,000 withdraw would be proportional 80% C and 20% G. It’s another reason that would support moving some or all your money to an IRA after retirement.
I am just an average Joe. I have no clue to what the market will do.
Paul Merriman 2 fund strat: (age - 25) x2.5 = TDF + balance into S fund or variation ofTimboSlice wrote: "People really need to stop overthinking this."
Re: Why does TSP require selling everything when moving shares.
<<It’s another reason that would support moving some or all your money to an IRA after retirement.>>
Even then, the "Pro Rata" would still apply each time you move to an IRA.
Even then, the "Pro Rata" would still apply each time you move to an IRA.
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Re: Why does TSP require selling everything when moving shares.
True. For example a back door ROTH conversion.
I think the preferred withdrawal would be from the "G" fund only in a down market and NOT proportional through all funds as it currently is. I read that the TSP is making changes so that we will be able to withdrawal from either our Tradition and or our Roth accounts which would be nice. But (I may be wrong) the withdrawal would still be proportional to the allocation percentages.
I am getting confused myself. Pro-Rata vs proportional? I think Pro-Rat has to do more with taxes. I believe what we would want is the ability to withdrawal from one fund like the "G" fund in a down market vs proportional a crossed all % allocations.
My Main reason to take at least my ROTH out of the TSP is that I won't be required to take RMD's from it.
I am just an average Joe. I have no clue to what the market will do.
Paul Merriman 2 fund strat: (age - 25) x2.5 = TDF + balance into S fund or variation ofTimboSlice wrote: "People really need to stop overthinking this."
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Re: Why does TSP require selling everything when moving shares.
Thanks for the term, "Proportional". Yes, just pulling out funds to add to a back door Roth outside TSP.
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Re: Why does TSP require selling everything when moving shares.
Or moving some, if not all of it after 59.5…Scarfinger wrote: ↑Fri Jan 28, 2022 10:56 pm It’s another reason that would support moving some or all your money to an IRA after retirement.
I’ve got about a 50/50 split between my TSP & my Rollover IRA (Fidelity), which TOMANYIRON would concede, is a rather conservative approach.
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