So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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harryface wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:15 am The discussion here is very interesting but I am not literate in Stock charts. Where did you guys learn to read a stock chart and what the EMA, SMA, SAR, etc. means?
I've also learned alot by watching Ira Epstein's Youtube channel. You can sign up for his course, but it's not needed. He puts out daily videos and goes over some good macroeconomic info as well as chart analysis.
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Re: So... When to Sell?, Ideas 1, 2 & 3

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Update on the original C Fund chart:
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12square's Confetti Chart (with a few of my annotates)
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12squared wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 6:01 pm Here's my current favorite.
The trend is intact when all three colors of confetti are on the same side of the curve.
My Favorite S Fund Chart (and big contributor to the Stay Calm Index).
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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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harryface wrote: Mon Nov 21, 2022 10:15 am The discussion here is very interesting but I am not literate in Stock charts. Where did you guys learn to read a stock chart and what the EMA, SMA, SAR, etc. means?
"The two most popular types of moving averages are the simple moving average (SMA) and the exponential moving average (EMA). Simple moving averages (SMAs) are an average of prices over the specified timeframe, while exponential moving averages (EMAs) give more weight to recent prices."
"SAR (Parabolic SAR) is an indicator that sets trailing price stops for long or short positions. Also referred to as the “stop-and-reversal indicator,” Parabolic SAR is more popular for setting stops than for establishing direction or trend. If the trend is up, buy when the indicator moves below the price. If the trend is down, sell when the indicator moves above the price."

This might help: https://school.stockcharts.com/doku.php ... scillators
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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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so what do we think now that "price has dropped below the 50 day EMA"? have we hit the sell signal?
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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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daemon wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:01 am so what do we think now that "price has dropped below the 50 day EMA"? have we hit the sell signal?
Yes, and I moved to G this morning. I should have after close on Thursday, but was expecting a bump on Friday.
One of those "Could've, Should've" things we say to ourselves sometimes.

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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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Interesting. Not seeing Tomanyiron in any pending list, nor does his fantasy link show any pending moves.
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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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tresrios wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 12:57 pm Interesting. Not seeing Tomanyiron in any pending list, nor does his fantasy link show any pending moves.
Yeah, ran into a snafu with the Gov site and was just able to get my transfer in before the noon cutoff.
TSP center IFT will be a day later.

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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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daemon wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 11:01 am so what do we think now that "price has dropped below the 50 day EMA"? have we hit the sell signal?
My PSAR based system signaled "sell" for $SPX and $DWCPF on Dec 6.
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24BP ... 1878301241
$BPSPX & $SPX 19Dec22.png
https://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=%24BP ... 4378055601
$BPNYA & $DWCPF 19Dec22.png
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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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Some people like the 200 day moving average. A simple way to calculate that is to look here:

https://www.paceretfs.com/

Look at PTLC. If it's risk off, then you know where to go. You could check every 5 days. It's a nifty way to let "someone else" do the work for you. ;-)

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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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Bubba wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:42 am Some people like the 200 day moving average. A simple way to calculate that is to look here:

https://www.paceretfs.com/

Look at PTLC. If it's risk off, then you know where to go. You could check every 5 days. It's a nifty way to let "someone else" do the work for you. ;-)
Hmm nice Bubba. Am too lazy or distracted with work right now to check their web site to see how these funds have performed over time

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Re: So... When to Sell?, Idea #1

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bloobs wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:51 am
Bubba wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 8:42 am Some people like the 200 day moving average. A simple way to calculate that is to look here:

https://www.paceretfs.com/

Look at PTLC. If it's risk off, then you know where to go. You could check every 5 days. It's a nifty way to let "someone else" do the work for you. ;-)
Hmm nice Bubba. Am too lazy or distracted with work right now to check their web site to see how these funds have performed over time
If you know Lyn Alden, she's been suggesting people invest in PTLC for quite some time instead of just using the standard IVV/SPY option. Their research goes back to the late 90s. For more info on their indexes, check here https://www.indexdesigngroup.com/.

Personally I don't use PTLC. I prefer COWZ, CALF, ALTL and I'm considering SZNE and PAMC (although PAMC hasn't done that great in comparison to FLQM, RWK and SMDY). Check the index design website for their indexes. You will be very impressed with their findings.

Good luck!

Best,

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50 EMA/50MA Buy/Sell signal

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Trying to keep this thread alive. Looks like we had a sell signal in mid Dec. Now waiting for a buy signal
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https://schrts.co/CSfhHbSY

https://schrts.co/vQJgKrTU
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