Year end losses? gains?

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jimmyk
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Re: Year end losses? gains?

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Ended out the year at 2.73% for my real tsp. I haven't tracked my TSP on this site. Spent one day in the I-fund on the first trading day of 2022 for a loss. Ended up spending the rest of the year in G. Never felt comfortable jumping in this year without seeing clear direction.
Good luck this year everyone!

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Re: Year end losses? gains?

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My TSP was up 2.85% YTD, starting 2022 in G. Don't sync my Fantasy. Did some contributions DCA into C/S resulting in a 93.70/3.63/2.26 (G/C/S). In Nov switched to G contributions. On the flip side, my brokerage account got taken to the woodshed and done up like the scene in The Evil Dead.

Q: Worth DCA into C/S right now, maybe just F? Worth switching a bit into F expecting fixed income to earn more than G?

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harpole wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:34 pm My real TSP matches my TSP fantasy. Still kicking myself for not getting out when up 20%, but overall happy with my results for the year. I tried the buy and hold strategy for a few months, but changed course once we had another bear market rally. (That 20% loss was hard to take...) I'm also worried about a long term bear market and think it's best to take any gains when possible..
Soooo. I really really hate the new TSP site :evil: Looks like I screwed up my last IFT in December and didnt enter the funds transfer correctly. So I only had minimal exposure in the I fund recently!! I'm so pissed. That site is beyond horrible! I need to look at all my previous IFT/move money between fund actions, because its likely it does not match my fantasy account at all...

Note to self: Make sure to enter 100% for each fund in Step#1 of Move Money Between funds!!
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harpole wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:10 pm
harpole wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:34 pm My real TSP matches my TSP fantasy. Still kicking myself for not getting out when up 20%, but overall happy with my results for the year. I tried the buy and hold strategy for a few months, but changed course once we had another bear market rally. (That 20% loss was hard to take...) I'm also worried about a long term bear market and think it's best to take any gains when possible..
Soooo. I really really hate the new TSP site :evil: Looks like I screwed up my last IFT in December and didnt enter the funds transfer correctly. So I only had minimal exposure in the I fund recently!! I'm so pissed. That site is beyond horrible! I need to look at all my previous IFT/move money between fund actions, because its likely it does not match my fantasy account at all...

Note to self: Make sure to enter 100% for each fund in Step#1 of Move Money Between funds!!
I use the "Change your investment mix" option to move money between funds.

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Re: Year end losses? gains?

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nweis wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:56 am
harpole wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:10 pm
harpole wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:34 pm My real TSP matches my TSP fantasy. Still kicking myself for not getting out when up 20%, but overall happy with my results for the year. I tried the buy and hold strategy for a few months, but changed course once we had another bear market rally. (That 20% loss was hard to take...) I'm also worried about a long term bear market and think it's best to take any gains when possible..
Soooo. I really really hate the new TSP site :evil: Looks like I screwed up my last IFT in December and didnt enter the funds transfer correctly. So I only had minimal exposure in the I fund recently!! I'm so pissed. That site is beyond horrible! I need to look at all my previous IFT/move money between fund actions, because its likely it does not match my fantasy account at all...

Note to self: Make sure to enter 100% for each fund in Step#1 of Move Money Between funds!!
I use the "Change your investment mix" option to move money between funds.
That has worked fine from meet too. My only issue was multiple "submit" steps. I initially thought I was finished after step 3.

"Move money" seems to be designed for those who prefer to think in terms of $, not %
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Re: Year end losses? gains?

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nweis wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:56 am
harpole wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:10 pm
harpole wrote: Sun Jan 01, 2023 10:34 pm My real TSP matches my TSP fantasy. Still kicking myself for not getting out when up 20%, but overall happy with my results for the year. I tried the buy and hold strategy for a few months, but changed course once we had another bear market rally. (That 20% loss was hard to take...) I'm also worried about a long term bear market and think it's best to take any gains when possible..
Soooo. I really really hate the new TSP site :evil: Looks like I screwed up my last IFT in December and didnt enter the funds transfer correctly. So I only had minimal exposure in the I fund recently!! I'm so pissed. That site is beyond horrible! I need to look at all my previous IFT/move money between fund actions, because its likely it does not match my fantasy account at all...

Note to self: Make sure to enter 100% for each fund in Step#1 of Move Money Between funds!!
I use the "Change your investment mix" option to move money between funds.
I think that was the method I have used in the past, I think. However, why do they offer two methods for the same result? The Move money between funds sounds to me like the IFT (Intra-fund Transfer) from the old system... I don't know, I am just venting, sorry. Plus, the app is horrible. Tried to look into these transfer options, but it wouldn't allow me to navigate the screen/no scrolling.
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Re: Year end losses? gains?

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12squared wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 10:29 am
nweis wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 6:56 am
harpole wrote: Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:10 pm

Soooo. I really really hate the new TSP site :evil: Looks like I screwed up my last IFT in December and didnt enter the funds transfer correctly. So I only had minimal exposure in the I fund recently!! I'm so pissed. That site is beyond horrible! I need to look at all my previous IFT/move money between fund actions, because its likely it does not match my fantasy account at all...

Note to self: Make sure to enter 100% for each fund in Step#1 of Move Money Between funds!!
I use the "Change your investment mix" option to move money between funds.
That has worked fine from meet too. My only issue was multiple "submit" steps. I initially thought I was finished after step 3.

"Move money" seems to be designed for those who prefer to think in terms of $, not %
It seems the two new IFT options were implemented to solve a problem that didn't exist.

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Re: Year end losses? gains?

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Here are my last 15 years real TSP account results, minus any contributions or matching funds:

2008=-3.0%
2009=+52.1%
2010=+25.2%
2011=+1.3%
2012=+13.2%
2013=+11.7%
2014=+20.6%
2015=+11.8%
2016=-4.5%
2017=+4.9%
2018=+6.04%
2019=+5.98%
2020=+23.00%
2021=+9.22%
2022=+10.21%
2023YTD=0.16%

Note: I've had at least a military TSP account since 2002, but I didn't keep good records of this before 2008.

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Re: Year end losses? gains?

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jimcasada wrote: Thu Jan 05, 2023 11:08 pm Here are my last 15 years real TSP account results, minus any contributions or matching funds:

2008=-3.0%
2009=+52.1%
2010=+25.2%
2011=+1.3%
2012=+13.2%
2013=+11.7%
2014=+20.6%
2015=+11.8%
2016=-4.5%
2017=+4.9%
2018=+6.04%
2019=+5.98%
2020=+23.00%
2021=+9.22%
2022=+10.21%
2023YTD=0.16%

Note: I've had at least a military TSP account since 2002, but I didn't keep good records of this before 2008.
Nice Jim!
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Thanks

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Looking at the 2023 Standings, I feel like I unlocked an achievement medal as I broke the top 25 for the first time ever. Currently sitting at 24!
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IRQVET wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:48 am Looking at the 2023 Standings, I feel like I unlocked an achievement medal as I broke the top 25 for the first time ever. Currently sitting at 24!
8-) Congrats!! That is a big achievement!

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IRQVET wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:48 am Looking at the 2023 Standings, I feel like I unlocked an achievement medal as I broke the top 25 for the first time ever. Currently sitting at 24!
Yesterday's market action was like the water level at the beach before a tsunami, pulling the Buy & Holder's who had been just riding the waves out with it.
“The genius of investing is recognizing the direction of the trend – not catching the highs or the lows.”
- Dean Witter

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Re: Year end losses? gains?

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12squared wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:17 am
IRQVET wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:48 am Looking at the 2023 Standings, I feel like I unlocked an achievement medal as I broke the top 25 for the first time ever. Currently sitting at 24!
Yesterday's market action was like the water level at the beach before a tsunami, pulling the Buy & Holder's who had been just riding the waves out with it.
“Only when the tide goes out do you learn who has been swimming naked.”
- Warren Buffet

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Re: Year end losses? gains?

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bloobs wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:33 am
12squared wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 9:17 am
IRQVET wrote: Fri Mar 10, 2023 8:48 am Looking at the 2023 Standings, I feel like I unlocked an achievement medal as I broke the top 25 for the first time ever. Currently sitting at 24!
Yesterday's market action was like the water level at the beach before a tsunami, pulling the Buy & Holder's who had been just riding the waves out with it.
“Only when the tide goes out do you learn who has been swimming naked.”
- Warren Buffet
In my metaphor, the "naked" are those who stood their ground while the water rose above their heads.
“The genius of investing is recognizing the direction of the trend – not catching the highs or the lows.”
- Dean Witter

"Put all your eggs in one basket and then watch that basket."
- Andrew Carnegie

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