Just taking a poll about the shutdown.

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I'm affect or not and my stance on the wall.

Poll ended at Mon Jan 14, 2019 4:55 pm

I'm out of work because of the shutdown
152
24%
I'm not out of work because of the shutdown
68
11%
Working without pay
41
7%
I agree with the shutdown for funding
291
46%
I don't agree with the shutdown for funding
75
12%
 
Total votes: 627

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Billionair
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Re: Just taking a poll about the shutdown.

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All Law enforcement are being paid, with overtime, and we are immune to the shutdown, as we still report to work. Also we have a reserve treasury of over 20 billion that keeps us far out of reach of a potential shutdown. I also agree with the shutdown as well.

Sadly, some of the family works at the IRS and in the Court system, all are furloughed without pay.
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lastdon87 wrote:Sounds like we have a silent majority that supports our president still...(I'm one of them, but also surprised to see the results).
Hardly being silent are you?
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DoD here so we are not affected and we get a paycheck for now. I voted for the second and fourth line.

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The 13th Amendment guarantees those that work will be paid, eventually. Those that do not work are not guaranteed, though there has been precedent.

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Re: Just taking a poll about the shutdown.

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What seems the most interesting is we have a 108 votes for being out of work, 33 not out of work, and 21 working without pay. A total of 162 votes.

But, 223 total votes saying they agree with the shutdown for funding.

I suppose I should have made it clear you can pick two. So you can show your current work situation and your opinion of the shutdown.
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ArrieS
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JDD4J4J wrote:The 13th Amendment guarantees those that work will be paid, eventually. Those that do not work are not guaranteed, though there has been precedent.
No.

A business that doesn't pay it's employees isn't in violation of the 13th amendment. The Supreme Court has viewed this amendment as a denial of rights such as citizenship, I.E. the right to vote and own property.

The Supreme Court has not really expanded this. Even the military draft doesn't violate the 13th amendment and I can't think of a closer example of involuntary servitude.
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jlozano042
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Re: Just taking a poll about the shutdown.

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ArrieS wrote:What seems the most interesting is we have a 108 votes for being out of work, 33 not out of work, and 21 working without pay. A total of 162 votes.

But, 223 total votes saying they agree with the shutdown for funding.

I suppose I should have made it clear you can pick two. So you can show your current work situation and your opinion of the shutdown.
I will say at first I thought I could only pick one but after reading the instructions more carefully it stated you could pick 2.

Good poll by the way.

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Wish I was getting free leave.

rugbydog11
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as one of the "have to work, not getting paid" folk... it really sucks when they vote to back pay furloughed people, and they basically got a two week vacation... i wish they would add however many days i have to work during a shutdown to my annual leave or some other category of leave.

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Is it weird that since the shutdown the market has behaved very bullish?

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Billionair wrote:All Law enforcement are being paid, with overtime, and we are immune to the shutdown, as we still report to work.
Did you mean to say "will eventually be back paid after a budget is signed" or were you being facetious?

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Re: Just taking a poll about the shutdown.

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michigande wrote:
Billionair wrote:All Law enforcement are being paid, with overtime, and we are immune to the shutdown, as we still report to work.
Did you mean to say "will eventually be back paid after a budget is signed" or were you being facetious?
I was being straight I think, I may have worded that poorly. We're being paid as normal, overtime as normal, and having a cocktail party tomorrow. I couldn't tell ya that a government shutdown was affecting anyone. LE is different in DHS though outside of the rest of our people.
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Re: Just taking a poll about the shutdown.

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Wonder if furloughed workers who agree with the shutdown will feel the same way next week when their paycheck doesn't arrive.

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Re: Just taking a poll about the shutdown.

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Tessbess wrote:Wonder if furloughed workers who agree with the shutdown will feel the same way next week when their paycheck doesn't arrive.
I can only speak for myself, but yup.

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Re: Just taking a poll about the shutdown.

Post by Midway »

Wonder if the results will change the longer folks have to go without pay. Suggest resetting the poll in a couple weeks.

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