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Great Quotes (Anything Goes Forum)
"Patriotism Means to Stand by the Country … Not the President"
--Teddy Roosevelt
--Teddy Roosevelt
"In the land of idiots, the moron is King."
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"Politicians and diapers must be changed often, and for the same reason"
--Mark Twian
--Mark Twian
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"Americans will always do the right thing...once they've exhausted every other possibility."
-Winston Churchill
-Winston Churchill
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"Our Constitution was made only for a Moral and Religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." -John Adams
"A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers." Plato
"Perfect numbers like perfect men are very rare." Rene Descartes
"Perfect numbers like perfect men are very rare." Rene Descartes
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The long version of that quote.userque wrote:"Patriotism Means to Stand by the Country … Not the President"
--Teddy Roosevelt
“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
It’s interesting that you start with Teddy' Roosevelt. Because I have thought what past president had the closest personality to Donald Trump?
At his time he was also thought of as the odd man out. (#2 in the link)
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/545 ... -roosevelt
This is another:
“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
"A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers." Plato
"Perfect numbers like perfect men are very rare." Rene Descartes
"Perfect numbers like perfect men are very rare." Rene Descartes
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Interesting. But I disagree that Trump is similar to Teddy. Although you did not technically say that.
The last person I asked a direct question about Trump has thus far avoided answering.
If you are interested in defending Trump, I can start us a thread??
The last person I asked a direct question about Trump has thus far avoided answering.
If you are interested in defending Trump, I can start us a thread??
Tomanyiron wrote:The long version of that quote.userque wrote:"Patriotism Means to Stand by the Country … Not the President"
--Teddy Roosevelt
“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
It’s interesting that you start with Teddy' Roosevelt. Because I have thought what past president had the closest personality to Donald Trump?
At his time he was also thought of as the odd man out. (#2 in the link)
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/545 ... -roosevelt
This is another:
“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
"In the land of idiots, the moron is King."
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No, I'm very conflicted about the man. I don't know what to believe and what not.userque wrote: If you are interested in defending Trump, I can start us a thread??
I do know when he does something right, no one wants to give him credit. Is he a good or bad president? History shall be the judge.
The 2016 election was between two people. Are you interested in defending Hillary?
"A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers." Plato
"Perfect numbers like perfect men are very rare." Rene Descartes
"Perfect numbers like perfect men are very rare." Rene Descartes
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LMAO. Good one!Tomanyiron wrote:No, I'm very conflicted about the man. I don't know what to believe and what not.userque wrote: If you are interested in defending Trump, I can start us a thread??
I do know when he does something right, no one wants to give him credit. Is he a good or bad president? History shall be the judge.
The 2016 election was between two people. Are you interested in defending Hillary?
I think many improperly assume that if one doesn't like Trump, they must like Hillary.
I guess it's all relative. It depends on the category, and in comparison to whom/what.
I know you're not, but if you were interested in that thread I mentioned, you could throw Hillary into the discussion.
"In the land of idiots, the moron is King."
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Would this help: https://blog.cognifit.com/cognitive-dissonance/?Tomanyiron wrote: No, I'm very conflicted about the man.
It helps to filter our personal beliefs only to those that can be verified by raw facts, substantial first experience, and absolute evidence only. Everything else is discardable if need be.Tomanyiron wrote:I don't know what to believe and what not.
Tomany, can you give us a list of things he has done right? I am honestly having trouble recalling--and I want to avoid confirmation bias.Tomanyiron wrote:I do know when he does something right, no one wants to give him credit.
Anger and intolerance are the enemies of correct understanding.
― Mahatma Gandhi
If it's a choice between a difficult truth and a simple lie, people will take the lie every time. Even if it kills them.
― Paul Murray
― Mahatma Gandhi
If it's a choice between a difficult truth and a simple lie, people will take the lie every time. Even if it kills them.
― Paul Murray
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Just my opinion .... but, ... it helps to filter out ones personal belief to those that can be verified by either raw facts, or substantial first experience, .. perhaps absolute evidence.bloobs wrote: Tomany, can you give us a list of things he has done right? I am honestly having trouble recalling--and I want to avoid confirmation bias.
Some are blinded from the truth because of their personal feelings, and others are blinded from the truth .. because of their personal feelings.
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userque and bloobs, I think you two guys have more time (and passion) for this sort of thing than I do. I participate some, but it’s a lower priority for me. Right now I’m looking at what went right, and wrong with my IFTs.
If this looks like capitulation, it is only for the energy I have to attribute.
Now if you are interested in starting a thread defending Hillary, Pelosi, or Biden, I would love to read it.
This president is all we got now. And all the “wish we had” is a waste of time.
If this looks like capitulation, it is only for the energy I have to attribute.
Now if you are interested in starting a thread defending Hillary, Pelosi, or Biden, I would love to read it.
This president is all we got now. And all the “wish we had” is a waste of time.
"A good decision is based on knowledge and not on numbers." Plato
"Perfect numbers like perfect men are very rare." Rene Descartes
"Perfect numbers like perfect men are very rare." Rene Descartes
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Not really interested in a general defense of Hillary. If someone posts a misunderstanding (imo) about Hillary, I might offer my opinion. But I'd do that with Trump as well.Tomanyiron wrote:userque and bloobs, I think you two guys have more time (and passion) for this sort of thing than I do. I participate some, but it’s a lower priority for me. Right now I’m looking at what went right, and wrong with my IFTs.
If this looks like capitulation, it is only for the energy I have to attribute.
Now if you are interested in starting a thread defending Hillary, Pelosi, or Biden, I would love to read it.
This president is all we got now. And all the “wish we had” is a waste of time.
I know this is neither here nor there, but I'm responding simply to clarify:
My proposal was not about "wishing." It would simply be a discussion. Discussions can potentially change minds. Minds of the participants, or minds of the passive readers. Those minds will vote again in the future.
Such discussions are no more a waste of time than any other discussion on the internet.
"In the land of idiots, the moron is King."
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I am 100% with you there.Tomanyiron wrote:userque and bloobs.....Right now I’m looking at what went right, and wrong with my IFTs. If this looks like capitulation, it is only for the energy I have to attribute.
Hillary who? See my first answer.Tomanyiron wrote:Now if you are interested in starting a thread defending Hillary, Pelosi, or Biden, I would love to read it.
That's what the germans, japanese, italians, spanish, and russians told themselves in 1944-1945 too.Tomanyiron wrote:This president is all we got now.
Jus sayin'
Anger and intolerance are the enemies of correct understanding.
― Mahatma Gandhi
If it's a choice between a difficult truth and a simple lie, people will take the lie every time. Even if it kills them.
― Paul Murray
― Mahatma Gandhi
If it's a choice between a difficult truth and a simple lie, people will take the lie every time. Even if it kills them.
― Paul Murray
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Read the book 'River of Doubt' about Teddy's journey into the Amazon and tell me he is anything like the cancer in the white house. Teddy was beyond brave. And showed it many times. He got shot twice while with the Bull Moose party, and then gave a speech in the white shirt he got shot in, proclaiming 'it takes more than two shots to kill a bull moose!' vs. bone spurs? come on man.Tomanyiron wrote:The long version of that quote.userque wrote:"Patriotism Means to Stand by the Country … Not the President"
--Teddy Roosevelt
“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country. In either event, it is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.” ― Theodore Roosevelt
It’s interesting that you start with Teddy' Roosevelt. Because I have thought what past president had the closest personality to Donald Trump?
At his time he was also thought of as the odd man out. (#2 in the link)
https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/545 ... -roosevelt
This is another:
“In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people.”
― Theodore Roosevelt
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