Poll of the day (Roast Battle TSPCenter style)

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Which TSP Fund will perform better today?

C
4
16%
S *
12
48%
I
4
16%
F
3
12%
G **
2
8%
 
Total votes: 25

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Tomanyiron wrote:
bloobs wrote:I hope you have your "Darn it Tomany, you were right again" rep points ready.
As of noon and as I eat my meager protein-filled lunch, it's all up in the air right now :o

So so so so exciting, or maybe I am just bored outta my mind. You know I dont give a rat's arsenic about rep points (other than I like the pretty bright red tint of mine's) but I'd send you a +5 as my reward--if you win of course.

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bloobs wrote:As of noon and as I eat my meager protein-filled lunch, it's all up in the air right now :o
A while before the "Fat Lady Sings". However these tunes the skinny girls are singing.

:roll: Interesting, the S fund votes keep increasing. Even with it down all morning.
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bloobs wrote:...You know I dont give a rat's arsenic about rep points...
Well we are playing with Fantasy money, why not fantasy "I Like You's"?
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Two Out Of Three? :lol:
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Alright alright alright......

====================
TSPCenter User Poll Results
====================
1st - S Fund 60% [ 6 ]
2nd - F Fund 20% [ 2 ]
3rd (tie) - I Fund 10% [ 1 ]
3rd (tie) - C Fund 10% [ 1 ]
5th - G Fund 0% [ 0 ]

====================
Actual TSP End of Day Returns 6-17-2020
====================
1st - I Fund 0.49%
2nd - F Fund 0.03%
3rd - G Fund 0.00%
4th - C Fund -0.36%
5th - S Fund -0.97%

Summary
====================
- Aston gets it right (again); has no comment (as usual) :roll:
- Tomany missed big.....also has no comment :mrgreen:

Discussion and Insights
====================
- Those in I won the day. Only 1 of Top 30 is in I right now (I hold EFA in my IRA but that doesn't count)
- S is trending down and I is taking its place on the hot list
- F turned positive. One-third of the Top 30 ytd's are in F right now

Lessons Learned?
====================
You guys tell me....

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Well, it stayed close for most of the day until the last hour. The forces that I perceived would prevail put in a good fight against the ones that Aston had up his sleeve.

Tom Crowley
Either investors have a short memory or they were using the recent rally as a reason to take some decent profits... We had such decent news on Tuesday with retail sales, successful coronavirus treatment trials, and the infrastructure talk. Fast forward a day and we saw some profit taking in many indices, and in the case of small caps, the selling was more than a little profit taking.

As for Aston, ask yourself, what could a person know, that told him (the day before), what the market would do the last hour of the next day? Could it be nonpublic information?

If so, Aitrus is insider trading allowed on the Fantasy? :lol:

I mean the Securities and Exchange Commission is a Federal agency, right?

That sounds like sour grapes, Tomany? No congratulations Aston (even if you don't even know you were in a contest).

Everyone knows this was just for fun. An allocation change requires patience.

I think it was Aristotle who said, "One day does not an IFT profit make".

Day one Unrealized Loss (?)-$2,132.35 (-0.97%). And eight more trading days in June.

Which leads me to this, I did make a comment.
Tomanyiron wrote:Two Out Of Three? :lol:
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Tomanyiron,

Curious how long you plan to stay in S? And what your criteria will be to make a move to safer ground?

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tacatlin wrote:Tomanyiron,

Curious how long you plan to stay in S? And what your criteria will be to make a move to safer ground?
The short answer is, I don't know. It depends on each day's results.
I would like to stay in S for the rest of June, maybe longer.
Two things are important to me: 1- Higher lows, which indicates up-trend in continuing. You can see that on this chart. We have had 4 since Mar. Image
2- A Risk indicator "Jitters" that I'm working on, if it jumps up I will exit. Today is the 3rd day down. (No chart yet)
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Not to throw any rain on your parade, but don't forget: tomorrow is Quadruple Witching day. However, I do see what you mean with the up-trend, so hopefully it'll be just a speed bump for you.
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Aitrus wrote:Not to throw any rain on your parade, but don't forget: tomorrow is Quadruple Witching day. However, I do see what you mean with the up-trend, so hopefully it'll be just a speed bump for you.
I was just reading about that. my homebuilt tableau share price analyzer early prototype does not show a pattern of clearly higher or lower returns for the 3rd fridays in january, march, june, sept, and december as compared to any other friday--at least for the 2 ETFs I matched the data against.

But it does kinda indicate that those days do have higher std deviations (i.e. more volatility, or higher delta between open and close prices) on average for the past 15+ years. So if you're a day trader kind of guy--that's your sign to get ready for a ride tomorrow.
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bloobs wrote: I was just reading about that. my homebuilt tableau share price analyzer early prototype does not show a pattern of clearly higher or lower returns for the 3rd fridays in january, march, june, sept, and december as compared to any other friday--at least for the 2 ETFs I matched the data against.

But it does kinda indicate that those days do have higher std deviations (i.e. more volatility, or higher delta between open and close prices) on average for the past 15+ years. So if you're a day trader kind of guy--that's your sign to get ready for a ride tomorrow.
MY BAD! :mrgreen: My initial conclusion above is wrong...dead wrong. I reran the numbers from my tool with the following scenarios using the 2004-2019 EFA ETF dataset:

1) All 3rd fridays in June , the std deviation is +/-0.25% from the average daily return. Average return is -0.046%.

2) All 1st, 2nd, and 4th fridays in June, the std deviation is +/- 0.4% from the average daily return. Average return is -0.014%

So witching days at least for June are markedly less volatile that every other friday in that month--in addition for having worse average returns.

The complete opposite of my initial findings. Oops.

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Aitrus wrote:Not to throw any rain on your parade, but don't forget: tomorrow is Quadruple Witching day. However, I do see what you mean with the up-trend, so hopefully it'll be just a speed bump for you.
Thanks Aitrus, I forget that sometimes. I don't use 'Witching' in my decisions, but it's good to know where the extra volatility is coming from. Today's last hour or so is going to be even more electrifying.

bloobs, You going to be watching near close today? (Don't you knock-off early on Friday's sometimes to go to the bar?)
You remember I said 2 out of 3?
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Tomanyiron wrote: bloobs, You going to be watching near close today? (Don't you knock-off early on Friday's sometimes to go to the bar?)
You remember I said 2 out of 3?
Me? Going to the bar? The bar comes to me, my friend.

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Thanks for the explanation of your strategy and the chart. Appreciate what you do

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FundPriceDayYTD
G $18.19 0.01% 1.27%
F $18.62 -0.30% -3.14%
C $78.45 -0.21% 5.50%
S $76.12 -0.20% -1.27%
I $40.67 0.02% 1.21%
L2065 $15.58 -0.13% 3.04%
L2060 $15.58 -0.13% 3.04%
L2055 $15.58 -0.13% 3.04%
L2050 $31.35 -0.13% 2.44%
L2045 $14.32 -0.12% 2.35%
L2040 $52.37 -0.11% 2.29%
L2035 $13.85 -0.10% 2.21%
L2030 $46.21 -0.09% 2.15%
L2025 $12.93 -0.05% 1.72%
Linc $25.28 -0.04% 1.51%

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