Cryptocurrency Revolution!

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You know it!
MarketWatch says $200 billion in market cap was lost today.
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-m ... 2017-12-22

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I bought and have held 5 BTC with a $450 cost basis...I am in looooong. $2250 scratch off. I have certainly done worse...2 divorces, custom hotrod, boat...

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Did you buy BTC before or after the divorce?

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evilanne wrote:Did you buy BTC before or after the divorce?
Don't answer that! her username may check out :wink:

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evilanne wrote:Did you buy BTC before or after the divorce?
Long after...about 18 months ago. :D

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cashworth :lol: BTC could be a good way to hide $$$ I wonder if it has been an issue in any divorce cases. Many spouses may not be aware of the value or think you are crazy for investing in it to begin with :mrgreen:

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Cryptos are not bad investments especial Bitcoins

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Are crypto bots safe to use?

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Don't even understand the basics of crypto, but I've thinking about doing some research to educate myself if someone has a worthwhile video to send me. Something they felt was worthwhile and to the point. I can't stand self gradificating long winded videos, just a SITREP and get to the point!
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IRQVET wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 8:36 pm Don't even understand the basics of crypto, but I've thinking about doing some research to educate myself if someone has a worthwhile video to send me. Something they felt was worthwhile and to the point. I can't stand self gradificating long winded videos, just a SITREP and get to the point!
Crypto currency is just a product that can be bought, sold, sent, received. Just like any other good.

It runs on the block chain. That's what sets it apart from most goods.

The block chain takes the place of a traditional ledger. Instead of your bank recording a transaction, the block chain records it.

What is the block chain, exactly? Put simply, it is insanely complicated math. Thousands of computers spread across the globe are constantly working on solving complicated mathematical "blocks". Recording transactions is part of this solving process.

This takes a considerable amount of energy. Why would people dedicate their computer and electrical resources to solving blocks on the block chain? Because for every block they solve, they get rewarded. By solving a block they create a new unit of the currency (for example, they create one new bitcoin). And that unit has value. So they get paid for solving the blocks.

Now, upsides and downsides.

The good-
1. The block chain is also known as the "distributed ledger". Once a transaction is on the block chain, it can never be changed or deleted. It is there forever, reinforced by being recorded on thousands of computers. In this way, the block chain cannot be tampered with. A bank, by contrast, has records that can be tampered with.
2. The block chain is government independent. The value is determined by the free market. Also, your "address" is not tied to you. It is simply a long random string of numbers.
3. It can be quite fast. Bitcoin is slow. Ethereum is a bit faster. Many new coins, however, are much faster. It is fast enough to send large sums of money across the globe in a minute or two, without involving a bank.

The bad-
1. There is no going back. Transactions cannot be undone or reversed, as they often are in the banking world. Imagine paying for goods and then deciding later that you did not get your money's worth. You have NO recourse. The transaction is permanent. You would have to politely ask whoever you paid to send the money back. And if they say no, then tough luck.
2. Even though the block chain cannot be hacked, the interfaces can be hacked. In order to convert your USD to crypto currency, you have to use an exchange. Their app, website, and their servers are all theoretically vulnerable to hacking and corruption. If you have the ability to send crypto on your phone, and your phone gets hacked, then you can bet you will lose your money. Then see step 1.
3. It is extremely energy inefficient. It takes a considerable amount of electricity to run block chain calculations. It is like 100x or 1000x less energy efficient than the US Dollar digital banking systems. The significant cost of running the block chain is in theory one of the aspects that give crypto currency it's value. If it costs $1500 to mine one bitcoin, then in theory the market would be willing to pay at least $1500 for one bitcoin. However, if the price of the coin ever DOES fall below the cost to run the block chain, that could in theory be the death of that coin.
4. There is no backup. If you lose your "secret key" for your address, then that money is lost forever. Those coins are still yours but you will never be able to send them anywhere without the secret key. There is absolutely zero way to recover it. Unless you have your coins stored at an exchange, like Coinbase. But then you put your trust in Coinbase to not get hacked and not steal your money.
5. It's regulation proof. This is either good or bad depending on how you look at it. The government can and does regulate the exchanges. But they have no way to regulate the block chain itself. They can't regulate transactions.

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I’m dipping my toe into stocks and crypto for the first time begining last week, starting small, $750 bucks worth spread across 70% stocks and 30% crypto. Well see how it does, these type of investments make me nervious as I’m not super versed in this arena.
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cswift01 wrote: Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:38 am Interesting article (https://www.marketwatch.com/story/bitco ... 2017-12-11).

Here's a funny thought. If crypto currencies really disrupt the market and disrupt traditional safe havens like gold, US treasuries and even the VIXX, wouldn't it be interesting to see the effect on the market? For example, if we get a massive correction, maybe people would run to crypto currencies?

Maybe it's different and people will pour money into crypto currencies other than say the S&P500? Consider what effect that would have on stock prices.

Personally, I'm not too in tune with the crypto craze. In part because I think it's too new and in part because they sell like ETFs/stocks, but without any yield or actual ownership. What happens if a crypto coin becomes worth $1 million? The worth is only there, in my view, if someone is willing to purchase that coin for $1 million.

Interesting stuff...all these changes.

Best,

Me
So how has history treated this prophesy?
My wife thought Futures were to risky to invest in. She thought Crypto was to risky to invest in. So I'm playing with Crypto Futures now.

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So whats the deal with some coins not being part of the block chain, wereas some are? Are their certain coins I should consider, and others you’d sugguest avoiding all together? (Like Doge)
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