41.23% YTD 9/20/18 ProFunds

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41.23% YTD 9/20/18 ProFunds

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Ultralatin America is making an awesome run at it.

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Re: 41.23% YTD 9/20/18 ProFunds

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TSPBuilder wrote:Ultralatin America is making an awesome run at it.
With a whopping YTD of negative 23.48%?

http://www.profunds.com/funds/ultralatin_america.html
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Re: 41.23% YTD 9/20/18 ProFunds

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Smoking hot fund at a Cumulative Return Since Inception of -89.99%. If I ever want to lose money I am all in..!!

At least the expenses are low, (sarcasm), Net Expense Ratio 1.66%..

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mjedlin66 wrote:
TSPBuilder wrote:Ultralatin America is making an awesome run at it.
With a whopping YTD of negative 23.48%?

http://www.profunds.com/funds/ultralatin_america.html
That's buy and hold thinking, not timing using technical analysis. I have been looking for one pattern alone most of the year and parking in their money market fund when not optimal. I have been in and out of UltraLatin America, UltraChina, UltraShort Latin America and UltraShort China many times throughout the year. I can walk you through the days I was in and the days I was out but it would be laborious. It has taken me over fifteen years to finally get the discipline to not constantly trying to guess the market and rely on just this one pattern that rarely lets me down and makes me pass up a lot of opportunities. It really cuts against the grain of how I am hardwired but it has corrected most of my greed issues and I should be able to hit and keep those 50%+ highs I have been hitting for the past few years instead of salvaging 16 to 27% returns. The next couple years will tell. I'm up 6.84% in the past three days in UltraLatin. Todays gain pierced the 50-day SMA so tomorrow will tell me if there is too much resistance and it rebounds negative. I would expect it to rebound tomorrow one day and then head back up hopefully. Two days down is tough to weather and a bad sign that even if it recovers to head back up it probably won't continue for long. Just observations.

Isn't TSPCalc your brainchild? That's some awesome work there.

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head wrote:Smoking hot fund at a Cumulative Return Since Inception of -89.99%. If I ever want to lose money I am all in..!!

At least the expenses are low, (sarcasm), Net Expense Ratio 1.66%..
Your sarcasm is noted. Please feel free to read my reply to mjedlin66's question as I think it might answer your mistaken assumption and therefore your misplaced sarcasm.

As far as the fees are concerned, next time please make the effort to read the prospective that tells you all fees are waived for the year. There is a whopping $15 dollar maintenance fee though. I'd still invest with ProFunds with a 1.66% fee. It's a small penalty to pay for 40 to 60% returns when a lower fee company can only give me a 20.5% return [last year, Vanguard VFINX (S&P500)] with a .14% fee. This is apples to oranges and unfair because you can't expect buy and hold to compete with a combination of leveraged funds and utilizing inverse funds to expand your earning potential during downtrends but it is the closest comparison I can make unless someone can find one better and correct my errored perspective.

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It seems that TSPBuilder is making an awesome run with this fund, not the fund itself. Congratulations on your return! Care to share your moves with us in the future? I have always relied on the kindness of strangers :lol: .

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Midway wrote:It seems that TSPBuilder is making an awesome run with this fund, not the fund itself. Congratulations on your return! Care to share your moves with us in the future? I have always relied on the kindness of strangers :lol: .
Tickled pink I moved three-quarters of my TSP over to ProFunds. It helped take some of the sting out of my losses with the quarter that remains in TSP that got hit hard these past couple days.

Captured a couple good days in the same time period in UltrShort Japan to bump me up to 43.93% YTD. Wished I'd stayed another day to catch the 8.1% of the day after the expected bottom but it could have just as likely been a negative. All Good!

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Fund Prices2021-05-07

FundPriceDayYTD
G $16.58 0.00% 0.43%
F $20.72 0.00% -2.27%
C $63.32 0.75% 13.24%
S $82.16 1.32% 10.72%
I $38.76 1.29% 9.51%
L2065 $13.84 1.02% 11.49%
L2060 $13.84 1.02% 11.49%
L2055 $13.84 1.02% 11.49%
L2050 $28.21 0.84% 9.30%
L2045 $12.88 0.79% 8.73%
L2040 $47.05 0.73% 8.19%
L2035 $12.44 0.67% 7.54%
L2030 $41.46 0.61% 6.91%
L2025 $11.77 0.48% 5.47%
Linc $22.89 0.23% 2.76%

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